Missouri man gets 20 years in prison for torturing underage ‘sex slave’

Remember Jeffery Dahmer?

"Surprise sex in the morning is great, unless you're in prison."

 

Another thought I just had: I think a forced abortion should fall into attempted manslaughter because of the danger posed to the woman. Waiving a vacuum hose or a wire hanger around in there could have easily caught a major vein, and caused her to bleed out. He should have a life sentence.

 

I had that thought too. Hope she don't end up with long term problems from a POS and a coat hanger. That and how did they dance around kidnapping and now get life?

Highly doubt she 'wanted' to even go there let alone held againt her will for how many years. Must have had a good court appointed attorney. Too many sick tickets out and about this day and age, And people wonder why I carry a gun.

 

Here's another link to Tim Tyler's story. You can sign a petition there for his release... http://www.freetimtyler.com/home.html

 

Yep. I carry my .357 magnum for that same reason. I'm well aware it's not a guarantee that I'll be safe, but I think I'm better off with it than without.

 

That's a lot of fire power you are packing mama, Gawd help the person(s) who try anything on you and you're family.

9mm here, But I shoot 147 grain in both hollow and FMJ. Like you said, Its better than nothing and id rather be with, Than without.

 

Keep believing that if it makes you happy.

 

Per capita It happens more often in Haiti, Dominican Republic, Egypt, Sudan, South Africa, Thailand, Saudi Arabia, the list could go on...South Africa for instance 1 in 4 men admit they have raped a woman at least once in their life.

Really you just want to bash America. We're the third largest nation on Earth and third most populous, of course we are going to look like big and bad rapists when shit happens here, and there's so much here that of course these things will happen as it's human nature, but that's just not the case when you look at those other countries I have listed. It is in their culture not to tell they have been sexually assaulted because they'll be blamed and shamed by their family, and in the case of several countries, will be arrested for accusing a man of raping them as in Muslim nations it is illegal to have sex outside of marriage.

I'm not believing this because it makes me happy. this is just the truth...

 

SunshineChild, IMO it's not fair naming only dictatorships and/or third world failed state countries with so different system values. If you're bored enough, try comparing data from different sources with other western first world countries.

Anyway, I'm not interested in pursuing a discussion.

 

You can't pick and choose what countries count and what countries don't count when clearly you stated that these things only happen in the USA, Austria, and Germany. For one South Africa and Saudi Arabia both have a higher GDP than Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Netherlands, Czech Republic, Romania, Serbia, Slovak Republic, etc.... Simply stating that they are merely dictatorships / third world failed state countries is completely inaccurate as they are neither of which. You don't want to participate in discussion because you are wrong.

Have you even compared this data from different sources with western first world countries? because it really sounds like you and all the America bashers are just talking out of your ass...

in fact people come the world over from these civilized western countries you speak of to places such as Thailand to engage in sex with girls as young as 12, maybe even younger.

 

If you're not pursuing a discussion, then don't start one

 

youre using a high profile inmate., who is know throughout the nation.

who is this other guy in the op /? never heard of him.

dammers death wasnt planned, he probably said the wrong thing at the wrong time. the inmate that killed him didnt recieve any special privileges : In fact hes locked up 24/7 only let out for showers. may as well be on death row. no tv / no radio, very little rec, no smoking .. all that he gained and not very much of it was notoriety ..

 

He killed Dahmer and another guy at the same time, and if I recall correctly he blamed it on the devil talking in his head or something. so probably not cuz he was Dahmer.

Anyway I got curious and looked it up. Interestingly enough, USA, the UK, Belgium, New Zealand and Australia all have comparable rape rates. In fact by capita the UK, Belgium, and Australia had very slightly higher rape rates than the US. However they may be even higher than America's as in the US it was estimated 59% of rapes go unreported but in the UK, 75% to 95% go unreported. in fact I would surmise the US has one of the highest rates of rapes actually being reported in the world. of course there were dozens of countries that were over double the rate rape as USA but they don't count in this discussion for some reason so I won't mention them.

Not only that but interestingly enough the only 2 other countries that were stated these things happen in (Austria and Germany) had half the rate of rapes as the other western countries I stated.

 

Ah, wait a minute. Is anyone available showing concern for this animal? Would anyone notice or care if he was never seen again? Go figure.

 

The Ellie Nessler solution would fit the bill for me.

If she was my relative, I'd be waiting for him to clear the gates.

 

Fair enough.

I guess it offended me. Amazing how living abroad is changing my perspective on things...

Sorry for the OT.

 

so much for justice

 

This might get me in trouble, but I stand by it 100%-
One shot one kill.

Innocent people are routinely prosecuted of crimes they havn't committed. It sucks. BTDT. But one thing I have found is in a lot of cases where innocent people are wrongfully prosecuted, eventually the truth comes out.

In some instance the court has to decide is this person rehabilitatable or not? If someone's gonna get a lifetime sentence, screw it- kill them and get it over with. If it turns out the person was wrongfully prosecuted/accused, then whoever did that to them get the ax as well. I know of a few guys that spent decades in prison for crimes that not only did they not commit, but in one case the guy was in another country and had absolutely nothing to do with the person he was alleged to have raped. That's beyond wrong. If the prosecution doesn't like the chance they will be executed for murdering someone, well I suppose they should do their job and go after the criminals and not the innocent.

We really don't have the resources to waste on putting people in prison for a long time. Charlie Manson? Hey, either he becomes a productive prisoner while he's held or bust a cap in his noggin.

Holding people endlessly is just plain wrong. That Missouri guy that held the kid as a sex slave...? Kill him and get it over with. And that fella Tim Tyler...? Come on, he's not benefiting society in any capacity sitting in prison. It's a non-violent crime. Holding someone for that long on a NV, that's so patently offensive and wrong. Let him go.

"Land or the free home of the brave" my ass. More like "Land of the imprisoned home of the gutless cowards with lots of fucking money they get off of locking up the fucking innocent".

 

Some criminals just can't change or be changed.

the prison system turns good people into scum.

"However they may be even higher than America's as in the US it was estimated 59% of rapes go unreported but in the UK, 75% to 95% go unreported."
Cops in Australia are useless and hard to get to do anything except speeding tickets.

 

Because that's where there are police agencies that bother to report it when they catch one of these guys. If somebody kidnaps a teen girl and holds her as a sex slave in Uganda or Uzbekistan, you just never find out about it and she eventually goes into a shallow grave next to his last victim.

Look how many serial killers there are. They kill ten, fifteen people and nobody even knows about it for years unless a body is discovered somehow. Dean Corll, Elmer Wayne Henley and David Brooks killed way over thirty young boys in Houston back in the 1960's, and only 27 of the bodies were ever recovered. I think the body count was way higher than that.

American society is so anonymous and so broken that over 30 pre-teen boys can disappear in the same city and it doesn't even register on the police radar screen. They get lost in the hundreds of other runaways, throwaways, exploited children, etc., etc.

Extremely mentally ill people wander around loose all over the U.S. and nothing is done about it because we no longer have a State Hospital system. Even if they act bizarrely, nobody is investigating them to see if they are really crazy. Every single one of the recent mass shootings that have occurred involved someone who was an untreated schizophrenic.

But when this sort of thing happens in Iraq or Afghanistan, it just gets a brief moment of attention--"Oh, how awful! Another suicide bombing in a market! How can people live like that?"