At what age(s) do you think it's ok to use recreational drugs?

What's mad about that?

 

Oh, nothing really, it's just some people seem to imply that recreational drugs after 25 are silly or immature in some way.

Just seems kinda funny that even probably the most influential band of the last 100 years (and the most influential drug-taking/psychedelic band) broke their rule lol

Those kinda people make me think of this!

 

And as if that weren't enough...

FRANCIS CRICK, the Nobel Prize-winning father of modern genetics, was under the influence of LSD when he first deduced the double-helix structure of DNA nearly 50 years ago.
http://www.mayanmajix.com/art1699.html

Yep, Fascists suck :cheers2:

 

wow good man thanks for the great post!

 

And what do you think about the occasional smoke of a marijuana cigarette if I may ask?

 

i started weed and booze at 15, the rest at 18. ive heard that the brain doesnt finish developing til the early 20s. kinda wonder what i and others would be like waiting til then

 

I became aware of the aromatic essence and Free loving culture from an early age (1967 I was 7 -etc)
Within an environment of Student / Hippie-ism I indulged that which was available and accessible
It gave rise to Creative imagination, relaxation, contentment and Optimism.
However,
After a few years of participation it tended to make one's perception of life somewhat different - with Paranoia and depression creeping in.
"For every Action there is Re-Action" I guess(?)
Although I suppose it's down to the Quality of the product of consumption

 

That is the opposite of my thinking. There are some whose science tells them that once people reach adulthood, it is pretty much getting too late to hope for much in the way of beneficial growth or change. That youh is the peak of their moral and ethical potential and view mind affecting substances as "remodelers" which can be used for better or worse. The coupling of education, experience and psychotropics can produce powerful and beautiful intellects and capacities. I think it is more about the awareness and application of one's innate potentials. Not that the drugs provide potential that wasn't there but simply amplify the awareness of it and "exercise" it causing increased natural growth before the mind and heart become "set in stone" and contemporary compromises dominate.
But that doesn't mean I think everybody should do it or that it is something that is uniform for everyone. I am sure all of us have seen people who were more shipwrecked than enlightenedby early over mis-use of substances, even psychotropics.

Edit - sorry about the typos and parsing....phone

 

You misunderstand the concept of the brain finishing development. He's referring to physical changes of the brain, not the potential for emotional or beneficial change in adulthood. The growth of hemispheres and lobes of the brain and the largest leaps in neuronal changes besides infancy occur from adolescents to about mid-20's. That's not to say the brain remains static thereafter either, however it becomes much more homeostatic and abusing alcohol and drugs before reaching this point could potentially stunt physical growth of the brain, which in turn could perhaps have repercussions later in life.

 

I think it depends on the person, and drug abuse at a young age is especially bad imo. Mainly alcohol, stimulants, opiates. I don't believe that weed can make a smart person dumb, but it can bring out underlying psychological problems.

As far as a cutoff point, this is news to me that anyone thinks drug use past 25 is not acceptable yet are ok with it before 25? Anyway once again depends on the person and their place in life. If you have a career or family that could be affected by it, then yes it's probably a bad idea.

And some people shouldn't use recreational drugs, period.

 

I wasn't misunderstanding at all but thanks tho ~

 

Yeah like a lawyer taking a tab of acid before going into court!

 

I cant say I condone underage/18 use, I started at 12-13ish with weed. I drank for a bit, But have not had a drink in 2 years and it would be 5 years no alcohol, But 30th BD.

I was on opiates for 15 years. Started earily from doctors for pain, But never abused until I was addicted. But ill be clean 100% cold turkey of all opiates this coming feb. It is/was a leach that sucks everything out of you're life and its hard when its bottomless bottles and bags.

The kids are getting into it at a younger age and my cousin was an heroin junkie at 15 years old living in the gutters of Detroit. There is nothing that can be done, You put stiffer this or that for ANY substance and the sale and use will go through the roof. The harsher fines make it that much more $$ and fun for the seller, Junkie gets fix.

Having a son and smoke herb along with prescribed medicine, I cant cast any judgment either. But one thing I cant stand are meth heads. They will focus on that shit and let their kids live in meth sludge hungry.
They are they only real group that pose a direct threat around kids high and living in BFE iowa, I have seen it and still do at times. But my only argument is about the kids.

 

Or anyone operating machinery or heavy equipment, anyone that can get injured on the job and fail a piss test for workers comp then can't work and can't pay bills.. anyone with a job that random drug tests. Anyone that can possibly get arrested or lose their job and actually has something to lose or a family depending on them.

I think what it is about getting older is it becomes less important and you start to have more responsibilities and shit to lose. I still use drugs but it's more occasional than it was in my 20s, especially early 20s. It became way less important at some point. I still drink regularly though.

 

I found it personally acceptable at fourteen.

 

I think... though this isn't my thread so I could be wrong but anyone that would think along those lines might be something thinking, well, when a person is in their early 20's you expect them to party and experiment... go to raves and roll... trip once a month ...smoke weed every day...whatever, you know? Just be kinda looking at life as fun and experiencing things. But it all ties into the standard, of, when you hit late 20's to early 30's- you are expected to have already gotten most of that outta your system, know what you want- be responsible-finally be an adult with your head on your shoulders.
And I agree with that. It has validity. You don't wanna be the person who's 30- or 40 (eck) and living in their grandparents basement smoking weed every day not doing anything different with their life.
That said... of course people who are older can be functioning adults with lives who still use certain substances occasionally... or even more than occasionally as long as they are functional and that is not what their life IS. But you are not expected to act like you are 22 in that way. Stereotypes I guess...

In any case... to answer the question in the OP- an acceptable age to start use of weed or what not... would be after age 16 or 17. Reason being is simply that certain areas of the brain are not fully developed until approm. the early to mid 20's. And any use before then can have negative, long lasting impacts on the brain.

I didn't start doing anything until I was 17 really. And I can tell a HUGE difference in my mental capacities compared to people I know who were smoking every day and doing other things at age 12, 13, 14...

Cut off age? There is no okay age for abuse and allowing drugs to run your life. So as long as that is not the case, yes, it's like the roller coaster example in one of the first posts.

 

I don't really think its an "age" per say. Of course there has to be one for legal reasons as long as their is a legal system, but to me it should be when your consciousness has evolved enough to take on a journey into the nether. If you are doing it just for the hell of it then you are not ready. When you are taking journies to discover more about yourself and this really weird existence you were stuck in the middle of, then you are most definitely ready.

 

^All I was saying is that it's a proven fact that brains that are not fully developed can be effected negatively-which can be permanent.. in ways that fully mature/grown brains cannot. I'm personally not anti drug at all (though I wouldn't say I'm "pro" either... more realistic)... in any case, when my son is older I will tell him it's cool if he smokes and what not but that I feel he should be 18 first for that reason. He probably wouldn't listen to me (lol) but I'd at least tell him why. lol.

 

I think that sounds like it could be highly interesting



I once went to a debate on the tail-end of an acid trip. I found that I was more confident at public speaking and came up with better metaphors... but that could've just been in my head. I won the debate though.

 

I'm just saying that it's the positive impact and not "gelling up" stunted. Psilocybin does not "stunt brain growth", if anything it encourages it.
But if you think it would be negative, better not, because then you will try to blame the rest of your life on something you don't know if you should or not.
Maybe it's all subjective? I don't really know whether to credit the acid or mushrooms just because I kept on and others did not. Stunted culture is worse than a little tripping to negate a person.