How do Muslims defend clitorectomies?

I wondered about that. If it is inaccurate information why pass it along.

 

because it's practiced in the southern part of the arabian peninsula [yemen, oman]

i might not have posted that as it was not part of my refutation of its islamic exclusivity

 

because of the rest of the quote

it was the first bit i put up there, i had no idea how long the thing was gonna get, and by the end i'd forgotten about it

[there's numerous edit/additions in that damn thing]

actually, re-reading it i realize that the author says "unknown in most Arab countries" [em mine] so perhaps i was wrong to criticize

[apologies, and i'm gonna fix]

 

Right on

 

Apparently so. The majority of cultures who practise female circumcision aren't Muslim. Nor is it condoned by Islam or the majority of Muslims. It's a sick cultural tradition, it has nothing to do with religion, no matter what these people claim.

 

Other faiths do practice clitorectomies. Jomo Kenyatta, anthropologist and Kenyan politician, wrote a book defending in almost lyrical terms the Kikuyu practice of female circumcision. And he wasn't Muslim.

As for Islam, as is true of Christianity, many things that particular local populations believe are rooted in Islam aren't. The Taliban taught that it was against Islam to play or listen to music. There is nothing in the Qur'an or the hadiths that supports that idea.

 

They probably defend it in the same way some people defend male circumcision.

 

look its peolpe putting culture and tribal customes before handith self mutalation id haram it is a african custom that should be banned.

personally ifeel its a defence mechinsim used by fundimentist to keep women from enbracing modenist ideas like partys and sex outside of marriage.

i think the orgasim is not the cause of a womans want to go and drink

 

Lets get one thing out of the way RIGHT NOW. I am surprised that this thread got to page 3 without this being said.
Lets STOP calling it female circumcision okay? Lets call it like it is, which is barbaric female mutilation.
I am male and circumcised and quite happy with the state of affairs. My penis had a small bit of skin removed but it is still in perfect working order as a sexual organ thank you very much. And if anything, its better looking than before! My sex life is - not as active as it was, but the point is I had one. A very good one.
Now, this female mutilation involves cutting off the clitoris and often inner labia. After which the girl will have no interest in sex, and the sexual organs put there by God, Allah, or the Great Pumpkin -- whover you believe in -- will be shot to shit.
Do you know the purpose of the clitoris? Its for pleasure. Thats it, pure and simple. It has no other purpose. Those that would remove it are disgusting and primitive barbarians who are ashamed and afraid of womens sexuality and seek to punish them for being female.
End of fucking story. And this is tolerated in the 20th century? It happens in England and people get away with it. Because, supposedly "Its their culture"
This is not culture. Its sick. Is it a Muslim thing primarily? I dont know, but I do know that many Muslim countries have a pretty piss-poor record of giving any rights to women at all.
Cannot show their faces, drive cars, go shopping, vote. Lets stop them enjoying sex as well and turn them into baby producing cooking machines eh?

 

Followers of every religion do awful things, it shouldn't reflect on the religion itself. Sadly, people like to label themselves as pious people and do things that are against their religion..they can't be used as an example. If you want to learn, you have to go to the source. Read the texts.

 

They defend female circumcision(clitorectomy) the same way they defend male circumcision. And in fact male circumcision is practiced much more among muslims than female circumcision.

Both male and female circumcision are unecessary and that is why I do not support them and I would advise people who practice circumcision to cease practicing it: whether they be jews, certain American families, or muslims.

Being circumcised is not the end of the world though. It is simply an unecessary procedure that people should not bother with.

Technically circumcision is optional in islam(some muslims try to say it is mandatory but it is really optional) and there are a number of jewish groups now opposing circumcision among jews and gentiles.

I agree that to perform circumcision is tantamount to claiming that God made a mistake and according to religion God did not make a mistake.

 

you cant equate clitorectomy with male circumcision

anatomically the foreskin could be equated to clitoral hood

clitoris is more equal to actual complete penis/glans

 

Exactly. Now can we all please agree that it is not female circumcision. It is enforced genital mutilation performed on innocent girls in order to rob them of any sexual pleasure in their lives because the society they live in deems them to be objects for the use of men. For fucking, for cooking, for showing off.
Oh the MEN are allowed to enjoy sex, oh yes.
And thiis is because (some) men are afraid of a womans sexuality. "We do not understand it - we are scared of it - lets kill it"
Yeah, nice going. Remind me again, what fucking century is this?
Oh, and before anyone jumps in with a lame "Its their culture..." well just shut the fuck up already. There is no culture involved here. Just mindless following of old traditions.

 

True female circumcision is a euphemism for genital mutilation. But instead of males treating females as possessions as a result of fear I think it has more to do with dominating the (extremely valuable) reproductive capacities of the woman. Both in terms of a male being the sole sexual partner of a woman, and in terms of the ability of a father to use daughters as trade items. In the ancestral environments, and in many societies today, woman are unfortunately a valuable resource.

Thank goodness for modern society and birth control and laws enforcing economic and political equality. Not perfect but better than having your genitals mutilated.

 

Indeed. Apart from the Roman Catholic Church which still living in some other century.

 

On youtube there's several videos by Yvonne Ridley. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvonne_Ridley

Do a search on her name on youtube because she can address this much better than I can

 

All muslims would not defend it.
The Hanafis (one of the four orthodox, sunni schools of thought) do not believe that circumcision is 100% necessary. It was done by Muhammad and by arabs generally, however the Hanafis believe that rather than being a religious dictate, it is a cultural phenomenon.

Of course they are in the minority, as the other three draw on Muhammad giving instructions on how the circumcision was to be performed as a proof that it is mandated in islam.

 

We don't defend it and we denounce it at every opportunity. But these are people from poor uneducated nations. They're kept poor and uneducated to feed the greed and hunger of the United States and its friends

My question is how do good christians defend the murder of poor pregnant women and children?

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Afghanista...fghan-civilian-deaths-sheep/story?id=10320603

 

Sometimes the rich defend the poor in a few of the undeveloped nations. It is an enlightenment for their need for settling the rich's axial ages subject from the literacy conscience of the poor's human reality coincidence. I'm talking the true Realism for 'Adam and Eve' at the arrival in civilization of the Oxidence.