Your Beliefs Are Yours!

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Diamond Gord, Dec 21, 2004.

  1. Brocktoon

    Brocktoon Banned

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    No.
    We must not believe he is responsible for the world around us (which also is filled with astonishing comforts, joy and pleasure).

    This world around us demonstrates we have free will.
    We most definately create most all of our own problems because of selfish decisions and choices we make.

    Roxycheer - The God YOU wish for is the WORST of all possiblities.
    What if this God makes food appear in your hand.
    Makes Cars stop in mid-air when we drive them off cliffs?
    Even zaps a criminals mind to 'force it to stop' whenever bad is attempted?

    Then you, me and everyone else just became reduced to 'puppets' or even 'children' who never know 'why' to love, 'how' to choose good or bad.
    We become a cruel joke - including your concern about others.. that would just be a program you were 'made' to think.

    The god you wish for is the worst god of all
     
  2. Brocktoon

    Brocktoon Banned

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    Let Gangsters carry high-powered Rifles.
    If you dont...
    ... You are FOR slower, more painful stabbing deaths?

    Wha? Your FOR Stabbing people to death??
    No?

    Then let them choose 303's to murder their victims!
     
  3. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    right.................good point.........? Though I can't see the connection, I am sure it relates to what I said somehow. Glad to see you do not dispute my point about your attitudes towards the lives of the women.
    I would be against gangsters even carrying knives myself, for that matter, I am against gangsters period. I myself, would be against any method of killing that is anything less than being as humane as possible.
    I sometimes wish there was some way I could learn your views on any of the questions you ask and points you raise.
     
  4. Brocktoon

    Brocktoon Banned

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    *BlackGuard Stands in the face-off circle in GM Place*

    BG13 to crowd: "See where I am?"

    Crowd: "YOU are in the centre of GM Place!"

    BG13: "What do you mean.. Im here arent I?!"

    Crowd: "YES.. YES YOU ARE!"

    BG13: "Why are you saying that? Im down here!"

    .........

    Brought to you by IGA Supermarkets and your friends at CKNW
     
  5. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Brocktroon.

    So, which god do you wish for?

    Occam
     
  6. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    could someone explain that post about me at GM Place?

    I am so lost trying to catch the meaning, and I would like to know what it means.
     
  7. Brocktoon

    Brocktoon Banned

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    Exactly!
     
  8. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    Very helpful response to my plea for help, ya rat bastard!
    .
    There once was a boy named Brocktoon,
    An arrogant, silly maroon.
    But soon this buffoon, who acts like a loon
    Quits being a goon, starts to croon a new tune
    And I'll no more see this baboon.
     
  9. Brocktoon

    Brocktoon Banned

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    There once was a boy named BlackG
    Who like to rhyme words you see
    His choice was Maroon
    He used it too soon,
    'Cause a colour, a flare or a sailor is not me

    BG13 - were you describing me as a Vancouver Maroon or a Montreal Maroon?
    If so - then I would have to credit you with keen Hockey Club Trivia
    (although, why Im a 'silly arrogant' Hockey Player is still odd)
     
  10. roxycheer

    roxycheer Member

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    wow...i never thought of it in that way...thanx!
     
  11. squawkers7

    squawkers7 radical rebel

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    if anyone is having trouble figurin out which religion that beliefs lie in then go to http://www.selectsmart.com/RELIGION I have taken it a few times and depending on the importance I place my answers I came up with different values in different religions. This was my 3rd try at it...my 2nd try is posted in the thread about inventing your own religion (I think)

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  12. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    Your Results:

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  13. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    I have to say that upon researching the definitions of Maroon, I should not have used it. I did so based on the context I had heard it used on tv, of all places.

    I apologize to the Maroons of the Carribean, I did not intend to associate you with this person, and I do not see him as being at all like you.
     
  14. thumontico

    thumontico Member

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    What is 'Bah? Faith'? (#11)
     
  15. squawkers7

    squawkers7 radical rebel

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    Jainism (76%)


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    Sikhism (61%)






    [/QUOTE] What are those 2?
     
  16. Brocktoon

    Brocktoon Banned

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    I think you meant 'They' not 'him'?

    In anycase, I appreciate your clarification BG!
    Its true that I am in no way like the Sailors Marooned on Caribbean Islands, although Im sure there are many similarities in some cases.

    ... Oley Moley you are funny sometimes BG13!!! :D !
     
  17. Lucy_In_The_Sky

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    Your Results:

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    Yeah, it seems to work :).
     
  18. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    That 838%


    There is only 100% ...
    Dont use percentages in belief...
    They dont work..
    Percentages are variables in methodology.
    NOT FACT.

    ALL human religious belief starts with 0%
    What evidence elevates it from there?

    Occam
     
  19. Brocktoon

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    99% of Psychiatrists disagree with Occam.
    (hehe.. i just made up that percentage.. its actually ALL Psychiatrists ;)

    Seriously though,,, people who study these things will often talk about how Human Beings are 'Hard-Wired' to believe in a Creator or 'Father' God(s) who have some 'Communication' with them (in some way).

    This is sometimes given as Scientific Evidence for the existance of God, since it definately appears that People are 'built' with this inherint trait.

    Pascal made a comparable and famous statement "There is a God-Shaped Vacuum" in all men.

    So Occams assertion (which is based on what evidence I dont know?) does not seem to square with the Professionals anyway?

    Why did you say that Occam?
     
  20. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Brocktoon 99% of Psychiatrists disagree with Occam.
    hehe.. i just made up that percentage.. its actually ALL Psychiatrists ;)

    Seriously though,,, people who study these things will often talk about how Human Beings are 'Hard-Wired' to believe in a Creator or 'Father' God(s) who have some 'Communication' with them (in some way).

    Rubbish
    [and psychiatry has nothing to do with philosophy]

    Occam bows to NO preconcieved belief if it is not backed by existant phenomena.


    This is sometimes given as Scientific Evidence for the existance of God, since it definately appears that People are 'built' with this inherint trait.

    Pascal made a comparable and famous statement "There is a God-Shaped Vacuum" in all men.

    So Occams assertion (which is based on what evidence I dont know?) does not seem to square with the Professionals anyway?

    There ARE NO PROFESSIONALS IN THIS QUESTION.
    Each human perspective is JUST AS VALID AS ANY OTHER.


    Why did you say that Occam?

    Say What?

    Occam
     

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