Apologies if/when I ever annoy or upset anyone

Then relax man, let them feel your vibes, maybe they'll join you

 

Heh, hasn't happened as of yet! And to be honest, I don't mind who joins me and who doesn't. I think my problem is I try to be friends with everyone, and that can't work because you can't ever see eye-to-eye with everyone.


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Erm, ok now I'll pull out of this thread too haha

Live and learn!

Take care, all

 

I think Hoppi might mean with 'researching a topic' he means discussing it on a forum? This is not researching in my book. Hell, even looking up articles on the internet hardly falls under researching in my book. I mean, I also have never fought when I did research

 

I really, really hope this thread has it's purpose and you understand what we were saying :2thumbsup:

 

stop using the word erm

 

anyone else get the impression that Hoppi and Indy are both just trying WAAYYY to hard to be "Hippies" or fit in.

 

Which brings us to the definition of what a hippy actually is.

There's a fine line between Socialism and Fascism, a fine line between Capitalism and Communism.

Being a pacifist, one can make that sound pretty cool, but at the same time one is talking about sticking ones head in the sand, letting atrocities happen thoughout the world. Its not like their are never noble reasons to fight.

Pretty much impossible to set up a commune nowadays that is totally self sufficient, members at least will run off to use medical services funded by everyone else if there is an emergency, or to cut the costs of that commune buy products in bulk having no idea about the chain of indrusties that go into getting that product to them; fertilizer, salt, anything made fom palm sugar. Those base elements can come from third wold countries where workers are being exploited

Or the "hippies" that dont even get to the communes, escape the rat race till after a couple decades in the capitalist world, have a nice little nest egg tucked away that they dont tell their new friends about.

Its impossible to be truly hippy or truly vegan because even with the most basic of things there is always some part along the line, where energy or an animal product was used, we've fucked over some third world country somehow, to get it

 

I agree he might be trying to hard only because he said earlier " maybe this isn't the place for that discussion which is too bad because I like hippies"

Just because it's the hip forums doesn't mean it's littered with let's hold hands head in the cloud hippies. There are hippies here, there are yuppies, a handful of good trolls, a sizable population of weirdos. And then the new people that cause shit just to be causing it.

Oh, and BBAD, I think it's hilarious you again posted about his use of erm.
it's annoying as shit.

 

Why you gotta be so judgmental, man? I've been this way since I was 13 years old, when I first got told I was the reincarnation of John Lennon Was even on the CBS morning show promoting my young naivety. Still though that young belief is what I fostered into the me that is now. If you can dig, it was a hell of a trip. When I first started my journey I was your stereotypical hippie, but I've had a long time to mellow out man. Why is it that you and so many others feel like you have to label those of us who don't need to be labeled? Instead of looking for faults in other people perhaps you could try just being and letting be. It'll do you some good

 

Thank youuuuuu.

 

100% agree!

 

Your choice of language, not to mention your user name, really makes it seem to the rest of us that you're trying really hard to fit the mould of a hippie. You're the one who is labelling yourself.

 

Not this again. Although i can see how it brings you there, I'm also pretty sure almost everything of this:

...has nothing to do with what NoxiousGas was trying to say

 

Alright if ya'll really want me to get serious I will. First, my knowledge does not come to be within Hoppipolla's mind therefore I cannot assume to understand what his reasonings are but I know that they are not this....

Never agree 100% with anyone or anything, always build your own understanding from what you learn. This is partly why no one on the previous threads really wanted to reason with you, man. Also recall what I said on my PM. Peace, love, and understanding.

As I have said before in some thread out there recently where Noxious was making his opinions about me known. I was originally here since 06 when I would have been 17, man. I was a lot more naïve back then. I still hold those years as my most formative but also my most limited. Now that I am older my understanding is much more far-out. I named myself Indy Hippy in '06 and when I made a new profile after getting too stoned and forgetting the old pass, which I also named Indy Hippy, so as to be consistant. I regret very much that it is a stereotype and have for several years now. I cannot change it though. Also why would I? There are plenty of people here who I have had great conversations with and that we have all learned much from. Why would I change that history? It is far too memorable, man. In essence, I no longer mold myself to be anything. I am what I am, and I can tell you it's been a great trip. What now is my sculptor is the universe itself. I am regretful if my Way has caused any of you to doubt my understanding but I cannot change what I am. Become more open and perhaps these will be understood, man.

I never got this feeling from Hoppi. He is ignorant and hasn't had enough time to form his own opinions but that doesn't mean that he supports bigotry and human cruelty. He does need to go about his questionings with a whole new vibe. Maybe if people actually tried to help him understand that in a more meaningful way he would try to. If we help him to know that he needs to have respect for what has come before, perhaps he will respond and come to expand his knowings.
Peace, Love, and Understanding
IH

 

meh, I may as well chat in this thread

I mean hey it's much more casual than my other one and it seems to be creating some interesting tangents.

Ok erm, I've omitted the last bit as it's probably best we let that lie, but the other stuff...

Of course, I don't believe in bad treatment of others. So I WOULD listen to a mass murderer, but only to try to help them to change. I don't believe in the death penalty I believe in psychiatric help for these people.

Racists... I'll listen, sure. Often they are opposed to other things like immigration or whatever, but if they're flat-out racists I'll just debate them probably. If their reason is just fear of the unknown then I'll just listen but disagree.

Pedophiles... that's thought crime, which I don't agree with. If they act on it by doing something to a child then of course they should be punished with jail time and receive psychiatric help.

 

As I say I'd rather not delve too far back into it but I'm happy going over some vaguer details.

A large part of it is that I support freedom of speech. I disagree with the legal hurdles surrounding questioning the details of the Holocaust.

I don't think that people should have to keep quiet just because other people might disapprove or be offended. As long as nobody is forcing anyone to watch or to listen and nobody is actively inciting (real) hatred or aggression towards any group, then it should come under free speech.

I find it a very simple premise, and one that I agree with deeply

 

Do you realize that you always seem to come from a standpoint that everyone else needs to be more open or rise up in some way to be anywhere near your level to be able to understand you? There is just an innate arrogance in your speech. It doesn't seem to ever cross your mind that perhaps it's your understanding that needs help. As if you are somehow perfect or so evolved that the rest of us have some catching up to do in order to fathom your depths.

For example when you said

I don't think you see how insulting this could be to Hoppi whom has shown you much understanding and has related to you more than most. So much so that a comparison between you has already been announced in these forums. Perhaps you were trying to put some distance between you and he, I don't know but please understand that just because you end your sentences with "peace, love and understanding" doesn't mean that you weren't patronizing or condescending with the words you chose prior to your catch phrase. Just trying to expand your understanding man:2thumbsup:

 

I think there's definitely a similarity to be drawn between me and Indy Hippy, it's just a shame that on certain subjects we... seem to come at them from different angles due perhaps to things like upbringing and past experiences.

I think we're similar types of people and both mean well and see the world similarly, but we've just had different experiences. Experiences shape a person I guess