Do you believe in spirit beings?

You are welcome. I'd love to hear your story and I hope you can convey it to us (and that any dissenters can manage to be civil and constructive).

 

I believe our physical bodies expire but that our spirits do not.

When/where one's spirit goes directly after physical death is up for interpertation...and I do not believe they all have the same destination. There are practically numerous recorded data of people that have life-after-death experiences, and there are a number of children (with NO previous conditioning for what to expect in death) that all describe the same thing...as do many of the near (or total) death experience adults.


Just as all of us humans are different, but many share the same beliefs...I feel that on the other side, spirits (or as some of us may say, souls) have "options" open to them.

There are numerous recorded situations where a "restless spirit" is seen at certain place...

Do people actually believe person after person, for in some places for over a century, are just making this "haunting" phenomena up? lol I wouldn't call it a haunting...but a determination by the spirit to do something or get a point across.
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As many people have heard me say in the past, I grew up in a haunted house, and I knew it...although I didn't have the vocabulary for it in those growing up years. As an adult I learned both my younger brother and I experienced the same (ghostly type) things growing up.

In fact, I was pooed-pooed by ALL the adults around me by my "imagination"...you could say NEVER encouraged to believe we, as living beings could/would encounter a spirital being.

Well, I'm an adult now...and I "know" (I think - ) I'm not crazy...at least I don't see things that aren't there.

 

This is something that has fascinated me for most of my life. I've spent a long time doing my own research and investigations. I've really covered the spectrum and have a nice library of material that I accumulated.

I'm a skeptical and very science-minded person. What I found after all that effort was.....very little concrete evidence of anything. A religious book telling me something means nothing to me. It's not proof of anything. I don't want to insult anyone in this thread but some of you have said you've seen too much proof to believe otherwise. If that is true (and I hope it is) I would love for you to PM me with details.

That said, I have taken a wait and see approach. I hope there is something more. Out of everything I've seen, the only place that I've seen a shred of solid evidence (meaning based on scientific method and reproduced by researchers around the world) is in NDE studies. I have read untold numbers of books and cases on the subject. This subject is important because it's probably the only area where we really can do research using scientific method and compare results. The results are in from around the world and they are impressive.

The reason that is important is because there are so many nutty claims out there, so many people claiming to "know" this or that, etc. I think most of those people are full of shit. What we really need is just a small amount of irrefutable evidence to blow the top off the entire debate. That can be found in NDE studies. So based on that, I'm confident that something else happens but content to wait and see for myself.

 

And I also want to say that I'm not trying to cast doubt on peoples experiences. It's just that what I was looking for was the silver bullet. I wanted something that can be proven without relying on taking someones word for it.

 

I also have a difficult time reconciling what I've seen with my beliefs as a Christian.

 

Total nonsense. But people will choose about any alternative that doesn't lead them to the intimidating logical conclusion that life is ephemeral.

 

Sometimes I wish I could find solace in the enticing position that the ephemera is the substantial, lode. What you assume here is not without some truth but it is dismissive of those of us who find the opposite to be far more intimidating. Life, as we know it to manifest for the individual, is without question an ephemeral, a temporal affair, but a noetic ontology of the ultramundane remains inaccessible and all belief in some form of continuity cannot be so rudimentarily subdued by a narrow attributing to nervous biology.

 

What?

 

If I were speaking to your capacity, I would have dumbed it down accordingly. The summary is that the nature of being remains obscured and that not all, but some intrepid belief in God is born of genuine inquiry into this mystery; nothing is certain, but nor should a belief be ascribed to base reactionary irrationality (say, to suffering alone) unless this is the known origin up front.

 

You are talking to an entire (international) forum. Being pretentious here doesn't make you look cool.

That being said: what?

 

I do not.

 

I am typing to address an individual on an individual basis in an open subforum frequented by a fraction of the members of the open forum international totality, in fact.

 

This chick in your sig will have trouble holding a job when she's older, but boy is she hot!

 

The Okami tattoo is what fully elevates her to a level of hotness hitherto unknown! :2thumbsup:

I am far from a fan of body art of any fashion, by the way, but she is exceptionally gorgeous.

 

World is changin, cherea. It would depend on the job.

 

I believe there are spirits.

 

I also believe there could be more in the atmosphere or beyond than just nothing. But no dead people's souls or spirits.

 

Hell fucking no. You have to be one hell of an idiot to believe in such things.

 

Indeed. I stop and look at that pic for a sec every time I see it. :afro: