Why Do People Get Married?

It's posts like that fuel my judgments and opinions towards atheists.
You're no better than anyone because you formed an opinion on life's mysteries.
You're no better for citing your quotes from your resources.
Fuck off.

Shit thread is shit.

 

I absolutely agree with that. I try not to shove my views down other peoples throats. It works both ways.

 

Uh well, I didn't ment to say that as a statement: I disagree too obviously. I was asking if you viewed it like that because you seemed to say you dislike God because you hate religion:

 

They feel lost because of their discovered truth and can't stand it people like you still are confident and comfortable in having religious faith :bobby:

 

I don't recall ever saying I'm better than anybody if you are speaking to me. I'm not better. I'm just different. It's unfortunate you have so much rage. I'd hate to feel that way about someone else's life choice. I'm also pretty sure you're not supposed to be "judging" people either but that seems pretty typical amongst the religious crowd. You may want to pray about those things.

I'm not lost at all. I'm actually very peaceful, confident and happy in my life. The religious choices others make have no impact in my life until they are brought up and thrown in my face. I'm not the one telling anybody else they are wrong for their choices. I'm not the one telling people to "fuck off" because they don't agree with me. I'm just saying there are different options out there and it's ok if everybody doesn't fit into the same mold.

I'm not the angry one here and I don't have hate for anybody that has posted here even if they don't believe the same things I do. It's just a discussion and I assure you I will leave this post and not carry hard feelings towards anybody. It's not worth my time to worry about other peoples life choices.

 

Didn't you just proclaim you are not publicly hating on religion/religious folks? So I didn't mean you

edit: Actually it is interesting you felt personally adressed there.

 

It's hard to know who is addressed when it says "they". Since I fall under that category I thought I would respond.

 

Ok, I thought it was quite obvious it was about the religious hate on these forums. Not atheists in general.

 

Maybe it's because I feel the same way bird migration does, I just express it differently. I do hate religion...for me. I don't hate religious people though. I respect that they have that choice just like I do.

Since this clearly wasn't directed at me I'll leave now. Carry on.

 

Religion seems so diverse to me, even the christian branches alone. How and why proclaim to hate it all? Most people who hate religion does seem to because of the actions/interpretations of it's followers though, so why do people hate on the religion rather than on the specifc people who were responsible for such actions/interpretations? As it seems clear other religious folks (even of the same religion) inteprete it a lot more positive which often shines through in their actions.

 

maybe I should have specified I don't care for organized religion. The thought of someone finding peace in looking , praying or talking to something or someone bigger than they are isn't what offends me about it. I actually understand that.

I hate these huge cults that are ran like businesses. They are in it for the money. Not to try and help people. Have you paid attention to some of these churches that are being built? They look like sports arenas. Who's paying for them? The parishioners. They are demanding money from the people who are going and looking for some kind peace or whatever people look for when they go to church. Religion doesn't have to come from a church that looks like the 4 Seasons hotel with a Starbucks in the lobby. I have known people that have been asked to not come back to a church because they don't have the extra money in their budget to donate to the church. I think that is terrible. That is just one part that I have a problem with.

 

Yes, I strongly dislike parts and certain practices of those organisations as well. But when you go and hate religion in general it seems you are also hating on the church communities that take a whole difference approach (and yes they exist ). I bet every church community has their rotten apples though, but I don't find that a reason to hate on the good ones or the collection of beliefs they believe/adapted as a whole.
I have a lot of problems with organized religion but that's something entirely different and far more nuanced than realize there are certain bad aspects in religion and that's why I would choose to hate all of it.

 

The Religion didn't build that Church. Individuals did. Asmo is right. Hating all of Religion because of what some people do with it seems like misplaced anger.

It would be just like saying I hate atheism not athiests, all while basing my discontent on the individual actions of certain asshole athiests.

 

Which would be really easy to do as well (and so is done to pretty much an equal amount too!). Both things happen on these forums all the time. They both seem to be misplacing their anger unfortunately.

 

That's hilarious! LOVE IT!

Hobbies of any kind are boring except to people who have the same hobby. (This is also true of religion, although you will not find me saying so in print.) - Dave Barry

 

Ok, maybe saying I hate religion isn't what I should have said. Let me rephrase my previous statements. I don't need religion in my life. I don't understand it. I have tried to. It just doesn't make sense to me. Since I refuse to bash people and their choices on the forums I have to choose my words wisely. I think religion is a very personal thing. I know people that have strong faith and it is a part of who they are. It's part of the fibers that make them a person. I can respect that.

I also know people who use religion to cover up their sins. They are complete assholes to everybody but go to church every Sunday so they think it's ok to treat people like that. THOSE are the people that give religion a bad name. Those are the ones that tend to shove their religion down your throat. Because they want you to know that they are forgiven so they can do anything they want and if you would go to church with them you too can be a total asshole to people. I won't say all...but most of the time I would say these are the "born again" Christians. I know plenty if people like that. they are the ones that leave a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to religion.

 

I think men want to get married because they want to keep the beautiful woman for themselves and to limit her options. As long as she's on the market, some other guy could win her away from him. Women are more into the guy who gives them status and security, but he'd better keep her happy. If he starts cheating and acting out, he's likely to find his clothes in the yard and door locked.

That was my problem when I married..I lacked the sensible female brain chip. When my spouses acted out dangerously and misbehaved, I didn't cut my losses and throw the bums out as typical females would, but my male brain loyalty made excuses and justified them. Turning a blind eye to shortcomings might work for males, since most females are altruistic, but it's dangerous when females don't nip bad male behavior in the bud. I finally decided it wasn't safe for a male/female like myself to be with a male since most seem incapable of regulating their behavior in some areas and I don't seem inclined to enforce it. I'd typically let things get to a point where it no longer seemed worth staying with them, then suddenly, it was over. Done. When most women jerk their mates back into line from the beginning and things don't go that far.

 

Ok, that's nice and conciliatory and everything. But can you really say you respect theists as much as atheists?

I don't mean it in the sense of trying to convert them or shouting epithets at them or anything. I don't mean it in the sense that atheists are more moral than religious people either, I actually don't believe that. I mean, do you really respect theists intelectually as much as atheists (leaving all political correctness aside)?

Although I have to admit that some of these militant atheists who think they'll save the world if they get rid of religion are as dumb as rocks too. I hardly even consider them atheists since they are messianic.

 

I think I do respect them intellectually. I may not fully understand their logic when it comes to religion but I respect everyone unless they give me a reason not to. Being religious isn't a reason not to respect someone in my opinion. In fact I prefer to not talk to people about religion because its like politics. For the most part its pointless. Everyone has their own view on it and no matter what I say or what they say, neither one of are likely to budge on that. It's not a discussion I choose to have. If someone brings it up to me I try as politely as I can to change the subject because it's not worth the argument. I never tell anybody they are wrong for their religious beliefs because I wouldn't want them to tell me I'm wrong. I give the same respect that I want to receive. I'm not an atheist that spouts hate at people. I just ask that in return.

 

I don't see a contradiction between showing them respect and having an unfavorable private opinion of them.

Like you, I try not to argue. The only times I might is when they sort of throw some entitled, unasked for crap out there and expect people to just take it because it's politically incorrect to shit on people's religions.

I may put them in their place if they do that. If they try to convert me or talk shit about atheists, then I have absolutely no qualms about being rude right back. But other than that, I show them the same respect I show everyone else who minds their own business.

That being said, I do have a private opinion about them and I do feel that atheists will usually be smarter than religious people. I know there's some sophisticated theology out there, but it doesn't seem to be the norm at all.