Duck Dynasty Might Be Over

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  1. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    .....and further more if duck dynasty is picked up by another cable network I’ll personally quit my high paying gig for a job at mcdonalds so I can spit into the hamburgers of white patrons [​IMG]

    So there....



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  2. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    I'll concede that republican candidates have been allowed to criticize gay marriage in the primaries. None of the candidates who win the primaries are sincerely opposed to gay marriage, and they tend to shut up about the whole issue once they win the primaries.

    If Christians are in the overwhelming majority, then you would think then they would also have an overwhelming presence in the mainstream media, but they don't.

    I think that gay rights activists have established a strong presence in the media, and are using that influence to try to gain even more influence.

    No one gives a rat's ass about radio. The existence of a minority share of Christian themed radio does little to suggest that their views are not being marginalized.
     
  3. odonII

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    :dizzy2::willy_nilly:

    *Yogi* sounds like (in his more less lucid moments) the type of person who agrees with what Phil said, and would probably say it in pretty much the same way.
    He seems happy that Phil said it and hopes Phil and the rest of the family make buckets of cash on the back of it.

    Could you point me to the passage in the Bible that states:

    Here he is on homosexuality, in response to Magary asking what acts he considers sinful:

    Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there.
    Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.
    Don’t be deceived.
    Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers — they won’t inherit the kingdom of God.
    Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right …
    We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell.
    That’s the Almighty’s job.
    We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus — whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists.
    We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?

    It seems like, to me, a vagina — as a man — would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me.
    I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying?
    But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.


    What 'agenda' would that be?
    For instance, Rupert Murdochs/21st Century Foxs?
    What would his/it's 'agenda' be?

    Imho, they both have a populist agenda. Fox News filled a particular gap in the market, and has been succesful.

    That's what I (and McFuddy) are saying.

    Saying: 'not be so pro-Republican' seems to suggest 21 Century Fox leans - to varying degrees - towards the right/Republican party.
    Have you anything to substantiate that?

    Do you mean that the majority of the mainstream media in the U.S has become less: racist, sexist and homophobic?
    And that is a bad thing because you think more extreme viewpoints should have an equal amount of airtime?
    If there wasn't any outlets for people to share their viewpoint I would have more sympathy for that view.

    I just read you said: No one gives a rat's ass about radio.

    The internet radio audience is growing thanks to shifts in consumer listening behavior from terrestrial radio to streaming stations, according to a new eMarketer report, “Internet Radio: Marketers Move In.” Users are embracing internet radio on a growing range of devices, from PCs, smartphones and tablets to automobiles, connected home appliances and other gadgets.


    [​IMG]

    In 2013, the number of US internet radio listeners will grow by 11.1% to 147.3 million. Expansion will continue for the next several years, though rates will taper off to single-digit percentages.

    [​IMG]

    Read more at http://www.emarketer.com/Article/In...ns-Marketer-Heads/1009652#uV59LOv69TcFYEqd.99

    How many videos are uploaded to Youtube?

    How many people use Twitter?

    Just those three give people ample opportunity to say pretty much what they want.

    I guess nobody gives a rats ass about those three, though, right?

    I guess when I talk about 'the media' It is wrong to suggest that every conceivable point of view is catered for on an equal footing or any footing within the mainstream media.
    Clearly that is not true.

    But within the wider scope of 'media' I think it is true.

    You say the shoe is on the other foot now (comparing today with the 50's)...
    How do you think that happened and why?
    Why should it flip back the other way?

    It was more to do with you having an opinion on TV and not really watching TV.
    It was just a joke, really.

    On a side note: The same people do tend to be used in debates.

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...j4&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
     
  4. newbie-one

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    Ok, since you asked. (this comes from a CNN article that cites a particular bible passage).

    I think that Fox News under Roger Ailes has a republican slant. I make no claim regarding the rest of Fox's programing.

    No.


    I wasn't talking internet "radio", I was talking about actual radio broadcasts. Internet "radio" is not broadcast over radio waves, it is not a radio broadcast. I'm not accountable for your misapprehensions.

    I don't claim that there is zero access to speech for dissenting views, but rather that there is disproportionate influence and censorship within the media.

    In large part because the process of gaining influence in media and education described by Antonio Gramsci has been carried out, though primarily by, and for the benefit of, gay/feminist/minority bourgeois elites


    I don't want it to flip back the other way!

    The media used to be controlled by convervative/christian nazis. Now it's controlled largely by gay/feminist nazis.

    I would like the media to not be under the control of nazis, rather than making the media under the control of a particular flavor of nazis.
     
  5. newbie-one

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    My hope is that we can debate this issue without any name calling or nastiness from either side.
     
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  7. *Yogi*

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    Phil Robertson will be back on A&E show DD on jan 15th. All the butt hurt homosexuals and blacks can go cry now.

    It has now been revealed that Phil Robertson will be returning to Duck Dynasty on January 15. A&E said they have no plans to fire the star.
    It appears as though the war on Phil Robertson and his freedoms of free speech and religions aren’t quite so savage. Although A&E declared they were suspending the star “indefinitely, ” it was apparently only a façade for the gay community as sources say they still intend to air episodes featuring Robertson .
    The Duck Dynasty star came under fire after expressing his beliefs about homosexuality and how it conflicts his religion. In an interview with GQ magazine, he started off by saying, “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers – they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”
    He went even further into explanation when he said, “It seems like, to me, a vagina – as a man – would be more desirable than a man’s anus.” Afterwards, he even went so far as to compare homosexuality to bestiality and terrorism, a point which made a select portion of the public outraged.
     
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    ^They're airing those episodes because they've already been shot.
    They're probably going to see what the ratings are like.
     
  9. Aerianne

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    So says Entertainment Weekly. I haven't seen any announcement from A & E.
     
  10. scratcho

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    Evidently, A&E found out which side their bread is buttered on. Popular sentiment= $$$$$$$$$$$$$$, racist, homophobic, crazy or otherwise. Fine with me. Its been that way a loooonnng time. Why wouldn't the flow of money determine decisions by a corporation? Situational ethics.
     
  11. *Yogi*

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    Cracker barrel is back peddling right now, They took down DD merchandise and now are quickly replacing it back on the shelves.

    First is was A&E items only, Then all. Now they are scrambling to save face LMFAO.
     
  12. hotwater

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    Fine who cares if those backwoods country fucks keep their show.

    I give them maybe two more years before their back in hillbilly heaven shootin’ possums, inbreeding, and makin’ moonshine – Hee Haw

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  13. Meliai

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    seriously, who cares?

    People are super worked up about this. Imagine what could be accomplished if people cared this much about something that actually matters.
     
  14. LoneDeranger

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    As a non-Christian (and a proponent of gay rights) who enjoyed the show, I'm disappointed but not surprised by what he said in that interview. I didn't read the whole thread so I don't know if it's been mentioned that his quote was from biblical book of Romans - no idea of the chapter or verse.

    But the biblical verse doesn't apply specifically to gays. Phil made that connection himself.

    It was foolish and wrong and A&E rightly slapped his wrist.

    I'd like to see Phil serve his 4 or 6 episode Time Out like a good boy and come back to shoot hogs and tease Miss Kay.

    And keep his opinion about folks whose lifestyle he disapproves of (for whatever reason) to himself.
     
  15. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    :iagree:


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  16. lode

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    Oh, every now and then people will get upset about something that matters. Remember when Snowden broke and everybody was concerned about government surveillance? Or when that guy made that Kony documentary and everyone was upset about child soldiers in Africa?

    People were concerned about those things for about a week. This redneck? A week and a half tops. We're pretty dumb, maybe this duck dynasty guy is the hero America deserves.
     
  17. *Yogi*

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    So when do you start flipping burgers? Or they putting you on fries first?

    They will be back making hand over fist money all day long and then some. Even if the show ends, DC will continue as they did before and will long after.

    Maybe you can get a job down close to them flipping burgers so you can spit on them. But im sure you were just running your mouth when that comment came out. Oh well, theres always cottin need a pickin.
     
  18. fraggle_rock

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    It's not funny when you do it because everyone just assumes you're serious.
     
  19. deviate

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    OH snap.
     
  20. *Yogi*

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    He opened his mouth and made the comment about 'spitting on white only' hamburgers. If he was not serious, Should have kept his fucking mouth shut.
     
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