Marine on the bus

Air Force

 

Fixed.

 

Oh, you so funny! ;-)

 

Society today as a whole seems to often have boundary issues on what should just be good manners. This is one of those situations.

While the person making that call was crossing one, those who made an issue of it were also doing so.

You obviously have the right to voice STFU but that also comes with a rebuttal from the one you say it to. In most cases that will be along the lines of mind your own business.

In this case it escalated into a situation that made all three parties look the fool.

People seem to forget that people can overhear them on a cell call and those listening in forget that they are actually listening to something that is not their business.

 

The marine was out of line.

- JKHolman

 

This is typical Marine behavior, not all, but they are the Few, The Proud, The Assholes whenever they want to be, cause dammit, they are Marines, Gods gift to the earth and if you dont get that you are just a dumb ass civilian..Too be honest, Marines are fun to fuck with, especially boot marines

 

Every Marine I have ever met has been a real stand up guy.

With the occasional exception of those who intend on becoming a Marine but haven't received any training yet.

 

It's the opposite for me. I have never met a marine that was a nice guy. The worst one was a boyfriend of mine from like 5-6 years ago. War does crazy things to people. I met him when he was just starting out in the military. He went to Iraq for a year, and he came back a different person. He was harsh, didn't seem to care about me all that much anymore, and all he wanted was sex. Before he left he was nothing like that.

 

Exactly if she had kept her pie-hole shut the marine wouldn’t have gone-off on her nosey meddlesome ass. Like so many other civilians she doesn’t know shit from shinola


Hotwater

 

He must be an E-1 with 14 years of service..riding the bus, something is quite odd about that..14 years in, which means he at least has to be an E-5 you would think he would of had a car..with that kind of temper, likely an E-1 on the way out.

 

Soldiers are Army guys. Marines are marines - not soldiers.

Ever stop to consider he has PTSD or is fucked in the head? If he has served for 16 years he's likely suffering from mental and emotional trauma that our government and armed forces tend to exploit in people.

What right does anyone else have to tell him to pipe down? Would you like it if he came and told you to be respectful and suppress your freedom of speech?


I was married to a marine, and as much as I really really dislike that guy….he never fell into this category that some of you use to associate all marines. I've also dated a couple and in my experience they and their friends were nothing but respectful people. Granted, there are assholes in all walks so marine assholes do exist but to chuck them into one group is pretty foolish and discriminating. "Namaste" to you.

 

Agree

 

Really? Because there is a total hierarchy among wives and any dependents.
Oh never mind I can see you're not with HF anymore.

 

just like the hierarchy of Military/Police vs. Civilians?..we are sub humans to them and will be treated as such

 

Thats your own personal hurdle to get over, not mine.

I'd also beg to differ given the extreme trauma I've witnessed some friends experience.

 

it is not a hurdle of mine..it is the truth..Why do you think the military always/usually, just like in this case..the first thing brought up is Civilian..what does that mean?

 

Whoa, guys. Seriously? No one really said all marines are assholes. In some of our experiences, we have not met any that were good people. Like happilyinlove said, there are assholes in all walks of life.

However, having PTSD or any other disorder doesn't give you the right to get in people's faces and scream at them. No one should have told him not to speak his mind but if he was being too loud on a public bus, the driver DOES have the right to tell him to lower his voice if he's being disruptive, and even can kick him off the bus. It's unfortunate enough to have to ride a bus with a bunch of other strangers, no one wants to deal with these kind of altercations while they're just trying to get home after a day at work.

My point is, both people were wrong. But the marine could have handled it a lot better. I don't care if someone's in the military or they're a civilian. Everyone deserves respect.

 

You weren't there and neither was I. So to say what he "first brought up" is inconsequential. Take ownership of the things you say. You said "we are subhuman", thats your own personal feeling Lorna - not mine.

In a lot of cases, we get what we give. How does Lorna expect to have good experiences with marines or police [or any other group for that matter] when she doesn't like them and has a general negative, defeatist disposition toward them all? Its likely you will continue to have bad experiences due to your projections.

I view each person I encounter as an individual, clean slate and every opportunity to disappoint or impress me.

Yes I agree with this, the sad part is though… that PTSD is difficult to treat and a lot of Marines and soldiers are neglected in the process. When I think about what marines do, I consider they go overseas and kill. I have a friend who used to do convoys in Iraq in a truck and on foot. He hasn't shared a lot of the gory details because thats one thing they don't usually do with civilians. I will say the things I do know about his experience is very disturbing, i.e.: killing armed children and sometimes unarmed children (under the assumption the child may be armed - thats how nasty that war was). We all have memories of the things we do, and I imagine that one would stand out loud and clear. I have another friend who served in the Gulf War. His best friend died in his arms. He constantly, and I mean constantly mulls over the incident and recreates events in his head wondering if they had done one thing different with a millisecond difference and if it would have saved his friends life.

We are so far removed from these experiences and struggles and at the same time, those who go through them sit on a bus right next to us. So really thats my point, just to be mindful of the struggles everyone is facing.

 

Did you even read the story? haha I didnt say it, the OP did..

I can't stand to see bullying, so i speak up. He starts ranting and cussing at me, calling me a bitch, and says loud enough for everyone on the bus to hear; "civilians are pieces of shit!" and, "civilians ain't shit!" (articulate, isn't he?

 

ever think of taking up psychiatry?