The Abomination

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  1. Sephardic-male

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    THE ABOMINATION


    "The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination!"
    (Proverbs 21:27)




    Leviticus 17:11 states, "For the life of the flesh is in the blood and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls!" True! But what blood? Where does the Law Moses state that the blood of a crucified Jew fills the requirement of this passage? Where does the Law tell us to sacrifice a human being? On a cross? Outside the sanctuary? If the law of blood sacrifice is still valid, then all the laws concerning blood offerings are still valid! We can not tear Scripture apart! The Law demands only the blood of bulls and goats, not the blood of a murdered man, nailed up on a pagan Roman cross! When the Sanctuary existed, blood was offered upon the altar. But to offer the blood of a man would be tantimount to offering the blood of a PIG on the holy altar. Both are contaminating, both are unacceptable, both are an abomination!



    Most abominable of all is the proposterous claim of false religion that the Almighty Creator can not forgive sin without the shedding of blood! The Church resorts to this dogma in order to explain away the terrible punishment and defeat the crucifixion was! However, the Hebrew Scripture of truth teaches otherwise. "To do righteousness and justice is more acceptable to YHVH than sacrifice!" (Proverbs 21:3). "By practicing mercy and truth iniquity is expiated!" (Proverbs 16:6). YHVH, the Holy Savior can and has forgiven our sins without shedding one drop of blood! "I, even I am He that blotteth out thy transgressions for my own sake! (and NOT for the sake of any blood offering!)" (Isaiah 43:25). "I have blotted out, as a thick cloud thy transgressions, and as a cloud thy sins; return unto Me, for I have redeemed thee!" (Isaiah 44:22). "Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed and doeth that which is lawful and right (good works!) he shall save his soul alive!" (Ezekiel 18:27).



    False religion claims that man was "reconciled" to God by the murder of God's "only begotten son"! Man killed God's "son" and God was so pleased that he immediately forgave all our sins. All we have to do is believe!! To accept!!



    We reject! We reject the abominable sacrifice of Christian doctrine! We reject the lie that YHVH can not forgive sin without the shedding of blood (although, according to the gospel tale, Jesus was capable of doing so, as a whim! See Luke 7:47, 5:20. Jesus could do it! The Almighty Creator Can't?!).



    We reject the entire fabric of Christian theology, pagan in origin, which pins man's salvation on CREED, instead of DEED! Christians believe in magic. All you have to do is accept the sacrificial suicide of God's "son" on the cross and you are "saved"! Instant salvation!



    We accept the word of YHVH, the All-Sufficient Saviour! "Wherewith shall I come before YHVH, and bow myself before the Almighty on nigh? Shall I come before Him with burnt offerings, with year old calves? Will YHVH be pleased with a thousand rams, with ten thousand rivers of oil? Shall I give my first-born for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? It hath been told thee, man what is good, and what YHVH doth require of thee: only to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thine almighty!" (Micah 6:6-8).

    THE ABOMINABLE SACRIFICE OF
    THE CROSS CAN NOT SAVE YOU!

    COME TO YHVH, TODAY!


    Submitted by:
    Mordecai Alfandari
    http://www.karaite-korner.org/light-of-israel/abomination.shtml
     
  2. feministhippy

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    How come all of your posts are about your opposition of Christianity? There's more to being Jewish than the fact that we are not Christians. You are aware of that, right?
     
  3. Sephardic-male

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    yes i am aware of that and they are mainly the differences and exposing the lies of groups like jes for jesus
     
  4. Disarm

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    I used to think that I was a great jew for knowing the differences between christianity and judaism and how wrong all these parts of christianity were. I was pretty bitter and full of myself. Now I feel that if I want to be a good jew, I should study MY OWN religion instead of spreading hate about other ones.
     
  5. feministhippy

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    Of course, we're all Jewish here and we all disagree with the "New Testiment". However, the Christians are entitled to their beliefs, too. You don't have to like it, but it's still true.

    As for "exposing Jews For Jesus", most people in this forum don't even view them as Jews. Why expose things to people who already don't believe them in the first place?

    Instead, why not talk about Judaisim in the Judaism forum and Christianity in the Christianity forum.
     
  6. HuckFinn

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    You seem more interested in ranting than in thoughtful dialogue, but I'll give this a shot.

    The strict rules about acceptable sacrifices were symbols pointing to the atoning death of God's perfect (sinless) Son on our behalf.


    Even the righteous prophet Isaiah realized that he stood condemned before an infinitely holy God. (See chapter 6.)


    The great patriarch Abraham was justified by faith. (Gen. 15:6)


    The perfect sacrifice of Christ justifies all who believe in him, throughout history, including those who couldn't fully understand the basis of their salvation.


    Truly saving faith results in a transformed life of obedience. It is not merely lip service or mental assent. God surely abhors such hypocrisy and is not fooled by false professions of faith or empty religious ceremonialism.
     
  7. juggla

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    also paul made fake ot bible verses up and took many out of context in order to prove jesus was the messiah
     
  8. Sephardic-male

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    Huckfinn the victim of false "jews for jesus" wrote:


    [You seem more interested in ranting than in thoughtful dialogue, but I'll give this a shot.]


    and you sir are more interested in inserting Jesus in Judaism which is insukting to real monothiestic Jews


    [The strict rules about acceptable sacrifices were symbols pointing to the atoning death of God's perfect (sinless) Son on our behalf.]

    no the sacrifice are a means of getting closer to G-d and can only atone for specific type of sins and in exodus 4:22 G-d said Israel is his firstborn son and "the son of G-d" is a title used to desribe Jews and kings like David who have a special relationship with G-d not a dead man/god that couldn't save himself from the romans

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    Most abominable of all is the proposterous claim of false religion that the Almighty Creator can not forgive sin without the shedding of blood! The Church resorts to this dogma in order to explain away the terrible punishment and defeat the crucifixion was! However, the Hebrew Scripture of truth teaches otherwise. "To do righteousness and justice is more acceptable to YHVH than sacrifice!" (Proverbs 21:3). "By practicing mercy and truth iniquity is expiated!" (Proverbs 16:6). YHVH, the Holy Savior can and has forgiven our sins without shedding one drop of blood! "I, even I am He that blotteth out thy transgressions for my own sake! (and NOT for the sake of any blood offering!)" (Isaiah 43:25). "I have blotted out, as a thick cloud thy transgressions, and as a cloud thy sins; return unto Me, for I have redeemed thee!" (Isaiah 44:22). "Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed and doeth that which is lawful and right (good works!) he shall save his soul alive!" (Ezekiel 18:27).
    Even the righteous prophet Isaiah realized that he stood condemned before an infinitely holy God. (See chapter 6.)]

    can't you bloody read G-d Isaih said doing justice and repenting is acceptable without sacrifices


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    False religion claims that man was "reconciled" to God by the murder of God's "only begotten son"! Man killed God's "son" and God was so pleased that he immediately forgave all our sins. All we have to do is believe!! To accept!!
    The great patriarch Abraham was justified by faith. (Gen. 15:6)]


    he never sacrificed animals to be liked by G-d he renounced idolatry which is common in Ur his home city

    [We reject! We reject the abominable sacrifice of Christian doctrine! We reject the lie that YHVH can not forgive sin without the shedding of blood (although, according to the gospel tale, Jesus was capable of doing so, as a whim! See Luke 7:47, 5:20. Jesus could do it! The Almighty Creator Can't?!). The perfect sacrifice of Christ justifies all who believe in him, throughout history, including those who couldn't fully understand the basis of their salvation.]

    Human sacrifice is an abomination and in many cases cold blooded murder I have explained how jews get salvation but all you do is insert Jesus instead of learning ith an open mind

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    Quote:
    We reject the entire fabric of Christian theology, pagan in origin, which pins man's salvation on CREED, instead of DEED! Christians believe in magic. All you have to do is accept the sacrificial suicide of God's "son" on the cross and you are "saved"! Instant salvation!



    We accept the word of YHVH, the All-Sufficient Saviour! "Wherewith shall I come before YHVH, and bow myself before the Almighty on nigh? Shall I come before Him with burnt offerings, with year old calves? Will YHVH be pleased with a thousand rams, with ten thousand rivers of oil? Shall I give my first-born for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? It hath been told thee, man what is good, and what YHVH doth require of thee: only to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thine almighty!" (Micah 6:6-8).
    Truly saving faith results in a transformed life of obedience. It is not merely lip service or mental assent. God surely abhors such hypocrisy and is not fooled by false professions of faith or empty religious ceremonialism.]


    does that hypocrisy included taking verses out of context and mistranslations? like you do in this Judaism section of this huge forum?
     

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