The BIBLE is TRUE!

I dont discredit anything unless I have read it, so I will give it a read, seems interesting. but still, does not change anything about the bible. In fact, since the last book of the bible was written 2000 years ago and the apostle John was on the isle of Patmos he wrote..these are the last words in the bible..John was warning us to be watchful for people that would add things after this was written that would lead us away from God

“I am bearing witness to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things that are written about in this scroll.
The one who bears witness of these things says, ‘Yes, I am coming quickly.
“Amen! Come, Lord Jesus.”
May the undeserved kindness of the Lord Jesus be with the holy ones.

 

That is a good quote from the Bible. The Bible is basically peoples accounts that knew of Jesus. The UB Book actually has Jesus' life story/history.

 

I'm in! We can pick out condos in the same complex. Party!!!

Yeah! Your god could suck my dick too if I had one!!!

 

If, according to John, it was possible to add or remove things from the Bible...how do we know anything wasn't added or removed from the Bible? Isn't he saying the Bible is potentially false?

 

Hell is merely devolving with a faint recollection of being further on the path. Some would say materiality is Hell. without Satan we would not be here. A perfect world would collapse on itself. He gave us something to strive for. Perfection, divinity, God.. by trying to tempt us away from it. He is a scapegoat of sorts but one of Gods favorite Sons

 

if its true to you, then more power to you.

 

the word "satan" means to rebel, and i love rebellion.

 

Too late, fortunately...

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It's a matter of taste. I didn't like ethics from the bible, but I did like epistemology or the concept of scientific truth.:sunny:

 

By taking it all literally, you miss the point and get hung up on trivial absurdities. Was the main point of the Jonah story that someone could survive in the belly of a fish for three days? The allegorical approach was the dominant way Christians interpreted Scripture for the first fifteen centuries of Christianity. It's a grey world, I'm afraid, and denying it doesn't change the reality.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself. :2thumbsup: Also, a lot of ideas in the Bible were stolen from older religions.

In terms of human wisdom that everybody can apply, I find the teachings of Buddha to be better; more insightful. He was a smart dude. Way ahead of his time.

I've read every word of it more than once, most parts of it many times, in several translations, and I was taught how to use a variety of Bible study tools and reference books.

I don't trust one word that's in the Bible.

 

That only makes sense How in earth could the story of Adam and Eve, the first people on earth, end up in a religion that was not the first one? :mickey:

What doesn't make sense to me is that people seem to regard a new(er) religion by default as more likely to be false than some of the ones before them. And if there are synchronicities between them they have to be stolen. While it is known and accepted that pretty much all new ideas borrow from older ones and it doesn't make them less credible.
Well, I can see how people might look at a christian tradition for example which can be traced to a pagan traditition before it but hey, the tradition evolved and adapted and still is carried out and celebrated with a meaning behind it by some. So what? It's really the eye of the beholder who judges this as solely negative.

 

That is one aspect that most fail to recognize.

OK, just for the sake of argument, let's assume that the Biblical message concerning God and his relationship with man, the virgin mother of god's Son who saves the world, yada, yada, was in fact THE TRUTH.
would it then not logically follow that God, given his ultimate love for his creation, would relay this message to mankind through every cultural venue possible???

So following that line of reasoning, it is not at all unreasonable to find so many similarities between different cultural interpretations of the main theme of God's message.

I am also always curious as to why it is always assumed the Biblical religion is the one that "borrowed" from others.
Could it not also be a case of those other religions and myths having actually been the ones to "borrow" the source material?

Funny how that very viable and possible alternative never occurs to most people.

I've said it a hundred times before here;
You are always going to find more similarities between differing belief systems than you will disparities because they all deal with the exact same thing, the human experience.
That is why, IMHO, it is much more valuable and educational to understand the commonality inherit in any endeavor such as religion, and focus on the points that are unique between them instead.

If people actually looked at Christianity from that perspective instead of just trying to find some means to invalidate it, they may be rather surprised at how much they "thought" they knew about the topic that is completely erroneous.

 

Actually, you can start your own religion tomorrow, and your book can include a creation story. Who knows? Somebody might believe it! :dizzy2: You could become rich and famous!

Stolen, borrowed, imitated, copied, repeated, it all means the same thing to me in this context. Not original or unique.

I think it costs fundamentalist Christianity some credibility points when they present the sacrificial death of the Son of God as a new and unique idea in the history of the world, when it has been well established by scholars that Zoroastrianism had something very similar in their story, about a thousand years earlier. The death of Jesus seems very different to me when viewed as a recycled idea, especially when presented by people who reject all other religions as completely false and worthless.

This idea is a core concept of Universalism, and an old Hindu teaching.

I thought you hated the Universalists.

I view all religious texts as part of the collected spiritual wisdom of all humanity, so I expect there to be a progression of thought over time. They also represent the human race's collected fears, errors of understanding, and prejudices. Everything has to be analyzed to determine its current value.

 

I think: the Bible is about the true world we cannot set aside from our Conscious Hearts. Isn't it?

 

people have tried to add many things..just look, the cross was added, christmas, all of the worshipping of Mary, Jesus, The Apostles..it is all wrong..

 

thanks and I am sorry for that one thread where you were upset, I should of been a little gentler expressing my views..sorry

 

yes

Satan=opposer
Devil=slanderer

 

what ethics did you not like?

point them out so we can discuss them

and bible truth goes along with scientific truth

 

by not taking it literally you miss the most important part about the bible, which is about the rulership of Jehovah..

They should of been studying the bible and what Jesus taught instead of an allegorical approach..that is why christians were out killing everybody back then.