Here we go again.

You must not have be a breaststroker... That shit is rough on the knees unless you are a frog.

 

:sunny:

 

Actually...that was my best event. The one I had the high school record for up until ten years after I graduated. Hmm... I never really noticed it on my knees then but my knees got bad later on. Dunno if it was at all related or not..

 

Sure. Either here or you can pm me if you want.

 

Love it!

This reminds me of one of the funniest books I ever read, "Jimi Hendrix Turns Eighty" by Tim Sandlin. From a review

I would like to be in a place like this, after I climb a few more mountains.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9079.Jimi_Hendrix_Turns_Eighty

 

Well, I don't want to stir the proverbial pot but as I recall it won't be a mountain near the Macchu Picchu (because of the hypothetical health risks)? :mickey:

 

Maybe speed was a factor. I have a friend who has been swimming for exercise for years, no problems. She goes for distance, not speed.

 

Yeah, that may be. And we don't really know that the swimming that I did for years (and yes, speed may have been an issue as during swim meets...racing... you need to go fast...), has anything to do with competitive swimming when I was younger.
It's interesting for me to think of the possibility though, as I'd never even thought of a possible connection before.

 

I have arthritis in certain pearts of my body due to have crippling lyme's disease.... work through the pain of it and don't think about it....I tore up my knee first fall last year, really badly. I know the pain of a serious knee injury.....it ain't fun...I am completely healed of that now, though.
Good luck to you!

 

I always knew I had arthritis in my knees and sometimes neck and fingers... but found out by a doctor a year and a half ago when one day my left arms went totally numb (yet painful) and three of my fingers went numb and my neck was so sore. I went three days and nights not even able to lay down or sit right I was in that much pain before going to the ER. They took x-rays and all they could come up with was... I was showing arthritis on certain disks of my spine---- and they think I pinched a nerve on my neck and because of the arthritis my arm/fingers went numb. They also thought I had carpel tunnel.
I went through 4 months of taking muscle relaxors while doing physical therapy. I needed the physical therapy to even begin to lift ANYTHING with my left arm and hand... my left hand is still very weak and I don't really understand why arthritis caused it but that's fine...whatever.

Sorry for derailing your thread, MAMA. Hope you're doing better!

 

Thats actually how I fucked up one of my knees...
I hyper-extended the joint and when I powered on the stroke, the miniscus apparently shifted out of place and got caught, almost sheared in half when I pulled my leg in. Very painfull... I barely dragged my ass out of the pool lol
They said I would never walk right but I decided to decline the surgery when they couldn't guarantee a fix. After 6 months on crutches, and years of self therapy I finally regained my natural gait. I can still kick, ride bike, hike for 6-10 miles without too much problem most times.... I have to be careful when I do squat exercises and such..Heh, theres only so much wear ant tear left for all my joints, I want to at least be doing something fun while I'm using it up anyway. And not chipping ice and shoveling wet snow like I am today lol

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTAAsCNK7RA"]OK Go - Here It Goes Again - YouTube

 

I'm not, but thanks for asking

 

From the perspective of traditional chinese medicine, arthritis is typically related to obstruction of qi or blood.

Exposure to wind, cold, damp, or heat tends to bring these obstructions on. One will have different symptoms based on what you were exposed to.

Middle-aged women tend to have damp-related arthritis, and it tends to affect the knees. The pain is usually described as heavy and sore rather than sharp and cutting.

One way to treat arthritis is with acupuncture. This can be expensive though.

There are some general dietary changes can help support digestion and indirectly help with arthritis, such as eating fresh, lightly cooked, whole foods served warm. Eliminating raw and cold foods, and cutting back on citrus, tofu, milk, cheese, salt, sugar, and fruit can help.

Dried ginger, beets, and black sesame seed are foods that specifically help to open obstruction of the acupuncture channels. Peanut and pineapple are specific food to avoid in damp-related arthritis.

The book "Curing Arthritis Naturally with Chinese Medicine" by bob flaws may give more detail on treating arthritis.

 

When do you have a follow up on the injury?

Sorry to hear that you are not really doing any better.

 

Are you speaking of R.A. or O.A.?

 

jesus! i never knew breast stroke was so dangerous!

that was my event for 4 years in high school - i had the record at my school too for a few years, AmericanTerrorist.

i don't have knee problems though..not yet at least.

 

this from my chinese medicine book: "...rheumatism, arthritis, neuralgia, bursitis, and tennis elbow are usually diagnosed as Bi syndromes." ("Bi" here being the chinese word for obstruction).

So as far as I can tell, most (not necessarily all) cases of R.A. and O.A. would be considered as one of several types of Bi syndrome

Not all Bi syndromes are related to dampness though, and treatment could be quite different. If it was related to heat, for example, dried ginger would very likely not be used to treat it. Most of the dietary recommendations that I made were damp Bi syndrome related.

The book that I mentioned, and ideally the diagnosis of an acupuncturist, would be more reliable.

 

I looked at a page about this and I'm guessing that rheumatoid arthritis would be considered a damp bi.

I'm thinking osteoarthritis may be considered a cold bi.

Maybe fibromyalgia would be a wind bi.
http://www.healthcommunities.com/ar...ditional-chinese-medicine-and-arthritis.shtml