news or propaganda

Of course you have to sort through multiple reports to try and sift out what might be partly true, but here lately it's a lot worse.
I look at a couple of the youtubers. You realize their priority is competing for attention and the sensationalising gets...yuk. Just because they are telling the truth as they perceive and understand it doesn't mean they're even close to what is really happening.

 

Yeah, something not true that some scag puts out ~ see: washington, dc

 

No, Roger Ailes is saying that he would put the guy falling into the orchestra pit on the evening news, not the guy with the 'solution to the middle east problem.'

So in other words the news isn't there to inform us, it's there to distract us.

Just as the Wizardofodd said:

 

Who owns the "news" ?




With so few owners how can the "news" not be propaganda?

 

That's really just...disturbing

 

So what is the "solution to the middle east problem"?

And did Ailes actually state that "HE" would put the guy falling into the orchestra pit on the evening news, as you seem to be claiming?

Of course you're left with the option to view, listen, or read the Left MSM to get the solution to the middle east problem, right?

 

To begin with, everyone in Israel has to move to Florida

 

Detroit is available.

 

Lol

 

"Manufacturing consent is the name of the game- the bottom line is money, no body gives a fuck! 4000 hungry children leave us per hour, while billions are spent on bomb, creating death showers"~System of a Down~

 

It's just a game they have learned to play, to make money. They know what their target audience wants to read and pay for. If the masses wanted something different, they would get it. The staff is accountable to upper management that wants to make as much money as possible. Business owners typically care about politics only to whatever extent they can use it to make more money.

It's there to get you to watch the commercials and read the ads. That's where the money comes from.

 

For those who didn't learn critical thinking skills in school, maybe some can learn them later in life. That's why it's important to support news sources that challenge you to think outside the box. Currently, one of my favorites is Vice on HBO. Bill Maher played a major role in getting that series off the ground, and it recently returned to start its second season. That show is never about somebody standing around with a microphone and asking you to believe what he has to say. They take you behind the scenes and show you the story, without any kind of sugar coating, or repackaging by a political party or government official. I'd like to see more of that.

 

Obviously I'm not going to dispute that business exists to make profit for the owners.
But I think the relationship between politicians and media people can get very complex and murky.
I agree that what gets into the papers is pitched to tell people what they want to hear, but I also think there is a manipulation of public opinion that goes on.
I think some of these media folks are on a kind of power trip themselves.

Maybe you're right about the first point there. But I think there's also a problem that for many people, life is just too hectic to spend time looking deeply into news.
There are some good news sources out there, and with the internet it's open to anyone to look at how stories are being reported from a variety of angles.

 

I'll give ya a point on that BB, it's hurtful to them that they don't amd haha a dam shame that they have to. But I agree. I pretty much control all my time but I remember the "giddy calamity" of people doing their thing all day and half the night.

 

Many American journalists picked up some degree of liberal bias in journalism school (or earlier), and feel a social obligation to bring about change. Being a liberal myself, that doesn't bother me, but I do see it.

On the other hand, there are also a lot of news stories out there that aren't worth further investigation. The 24 hour news stations have to dig really deep to fill up that much time. Typically, I find at most one new story a week that seems worth investigating more deeply.

 

Just report facts....period.....an no smoke and mirrors......and if we have to get smolke and mirrors, too, well, I think the intelligent minded can pick out the kernels of truth.

 

I dunno Karen, that sounds like a distraction to me

 

I believe everything that comes from and about the Gaza strip issue now; that is for the grace of one great religion for the planet. The Russian blow heart shall pass into business land grabbing concepts.:biker:

 

I'm more of a socialist than a liberal. But like the journalists you allude to, that's probably something I picked up during my formative years. I'm not against capitalism per se, but I think it has to be de-fanged. Wealth has to be distributed more evenly.
So when you have the economically dominant class in full control of the media, it sends alarm signals, mainly because I think it's easy to manipulate public opinion, to diss any kind of left wing agenda, and instill basically right wing ideology into the masses.

America nd Britain are different cases, but here, that's what seems to be going on.


There are too many news stories, and a lot of them on mainstream media are more about celebrity gossip etc or just spreading fear than any real significance.

There's also the fact that any story tends to get dropped after a few days. Hardly a word in the UK press on Syria for a few weeks now, but we know it's still raging on.
That's all part of the 'entertainment ' value of many news sources.

William Randolph Hurst knew this when he came up with the idea of 'yellow journalism'.

 

America's media is propaganda. Not only did Obama Legalize propaganda, but CNN was caught lying about the Syrian situation, and, Fox was caught getting their broadcasts from the white house.

Our media know what's happening with the elite .01%- but, they work for them, so, they use their power to distract people on a massive scale from reality.