I'm curious to know as to wether or not most so called "hippies" of the 60's were affiliated with a poltical party. Many people associate the liberalism of the Democratic Party with the ideas of the hippies. Personaly, I feel that the concept of not contributing to the system turned many 60's radicals away from either party. In fact, one could go so far as to say the hippies opposed the Democrats, evidenced by the protests at the 1968 convention in Chicago. It may be a moot point, but in terms of history and overall opinion, I still find it interesting. Any thoughts?
Well, neither political party was nearly radical enough for the hippies (or for me). In a two party system like ours, the hippies really didn't have much to choose from. The Democrats were a little more anti-war and pro civil rights than the Republicans. The Republicans were the 'nice clean cut' status quo party that certainly didn't have anything in common with the hippies. At the 1968 convention, the hippies were protesting against the undemocratic takeover of the candidate selection process by Mayor Daley-they had put their hopes on the Democrats producing a real anti-war candidate that year.
All I know is that the hippy movement was a creation of the establishment Elite. It was the Tavistock Institute, working with the CIA, that brought LSD to America, and involved such names as Aldous Huxley, Alfred M. Hubbard and Michael Hollingshead (all paid intelligence assets). It was the CIA in which he was working for that funded Timothy Leary. The corporate, Elite-controlled media helped to promote him to cult status. Of course Leary's mantra was "turn on, tune in, drop out," and this is exactly the mindset the Elite wanted to instill among the youth, as it helped neutralize any REAL protest from taking place. The goal was to sway the young from social responsibility and action to introspection and self-gratification. People don't understand that the "hippy" movement wasn't the creation of a bunch of young, hip, long-haired potsmokers, but the creation of old, balding men in suits, whose speciality was studying the effects of mind control and propaganda on the human mind. They are called social scientists, and they all worked for Tavistock, which formulates all government propaganda to this day through the various "think tanks" in which it is linked. It was the CIA, working with the Tavistock Institute, which brought about the hippy movement and drug culture in America. So basically, the whole intention of the hippy movement wasn't to make people apolitical, but distracted away from politics and political thought altogether. Also see: The CIA Created the Drug Culture
Really? So if you hang out at Hippy forums, that kind of makes you a CIA asset doesn't it? And lets recall that you used to be a communist sympathiser, like the "ex" leftist neocons. So lets see, you have a secret extreme left background, you hang out at CIA websites.... COINTELPRO! COINTELPRO! You've been outed! How interesting Rat, since that's exactly what your survivalist/conspiracy theorist/anti-homosexual shape changing time travelling lizard jew movement supports. Send $39.99 to Alex Jones and do nothing. Any by the way... savethemales? Even compared to the garbage you usually read, this sets new standards for stupidity. "Sexual Liberation Is Illuminati Subversion"? Does it get any dumber that than?
yes pressed rat, the cia created the drug culture, but the drug culture WASN'T the real 'hippie' movement. it was created to sabotage and discredit the real movement. why in the hell else do you think they did it? as to the origeonal question, a-partisan does NOT equal a-political! the agenda of a mellow world for everyone to be able to enjoy transcended political boundries and still does. and no p.r. "mellowness" does NOT equal recreationaly impared judgement either. =^^= .../\...
WTF? So you mean I was a CIA patsy when I was throwing tomatoes at Ronny Ray-Gun in the South Bay Center shopping mall when he was running for governor? I feel so cheapened. (hangs head in shame) LSD wasn't anything the CIA could use. If it was it would never have been made illegal. Anyone remember the Vee Dub bus on Sunset Blvd. selling acid with the countdown till illegality posted on the side? If you wanted to know what the CIA was working on for use in warfare, then you had to have taken a couple hits of STP and gone on a psychotic adventure for 3 or 4 days. What the CIA was really up to was having Lao tribesmen, while being guarded by armed CIA operatives load heroin onto Air America flights out of the Golden Triangle. They were more woried about the civil rights movement and black america cohering into a viable political power. That action continued on into the 90's, with the only exception, crack became the vehicle of choice. Make 'em a felon and they can't vote. Democrats and Republicans both suck! The Republicans are raping the country and looting the treasury, and the Democrats are too fucking pussy whipped to speak out. VOTE GREEN! VOTE OFTEN!
Being political and being affiliated with a political party are two different things. Not all hippies gave a shit about politics, many felt the system itself was the problem and voting just perpetuated the fucked up system. Others were very activist, which meant attending protests, workshops, teach-ins, etc. In other words they tried to influence political decision making on various issues by taking to the streets and educating others about alternative points of view, not represented in the mass media. Hippies explored many new ways of organizing themselves and fighting for change. Somethings worked, others failed. The "system" was also active in undermining these efforts and J. Edgar Hoover launched a personal crusade against hippies which including spying on them, infiltrating their groups, attempting to create discord within these groups so they would be ineffective, when that failed they would set the leaders up for busts, and finally terminate them. These methods were very effective then, as they are today. Yes, they STILL do this shit, and now with expanded powers under new terrorism laws they can do much more. It's possible we could've had a peaceful revolution in this country if those in power had not been so effective. Hippies pioneered alternative social programs from the Diggers to the Black Panthers to hundreds of communes in the city & out in the country (many are still there!). But the vested interests had too much to lose if a whole generation were to opt out of the system. Now it's nearly impossible to live without being a cog in the great big money machine. They've seen to that.
Yes they did and yes I've heard of MKU. But in the end it wasn't useful to them. They were more interested in drugs like STP ( 2,5-DIMETHOXY-4-METHYLAMPHETAMINE ) that they could theoretically spray on enemy troops incapacitating them with disorientation and mass psychotic delusion's. I agree with that. Without trying to get into labels and/or generalizations, (but doing it anyway <g>) you could break it down to flower child, apolitical, but aware, just not giving a crap, and hippies, hyper political. anti war, pro environment, and acting directly for change (in many different arenas and different ways), and pozers, (or whatever you wanna call them), all the long haired wanna be "in" people, that are sitting in their offices, right now, in their big overstuffed leather chairs, not doing a damned thing about what's going on right now, which is far more insidious than anything that "the man" was doing back in the day.
I agree with Pressed Rat. Anyone saying voting is pointless, and that the parties are identical, is enabling corporate power, patriarchy, and right wing religion. Ever notice how many hippies and communards are from upper class backgrounds? How could they be very concerned about redneck coal miners, factory workers, etc.
I would say that the hippies were very very political, but I tend to associate them with more radical perspectives than the democrats, who have swallowed the same free market bullshit that the Republicans have... the difference being that some of them seem more likely to feel bad about it and aren't trying to bring back Ronald Reagan so they can be cool again. I do think that hippies might have helped civil rights become more of an election issue, though... and probably did a lot towards challenging nationalism and mindless patriotism in favor of a more international, open perspective... which of course was adapted into a marketing slogan for trade agreements that kill the domestic economy.