Does the USA have a responsibility to help the Iraqis?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Jun 12, 2014.

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    history repeats itself..
     
  2. Wizardofodd

    Wizardofodd Senior Member

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    I think we've probably "helped" enough.
     
  3. Moonglow181

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    Yeah, Wizard. I have had the same feeling....."helped" too much maybe...
     
  4. Anaximenes

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    Does France have a responsibility to help Algeria? Yes!! (At least economically.):juggle:
     
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  6. Wizardofodd

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    And this seems like a great business opportunity for the military industrial complex. We bring all sorts of equipment home from war and give it to local police depts resulting in the militarization of local police (which you can read about here http://thefreethoughtproject.com/america-police-departments-quietly-preparing-war/)

    Then we get to buy all new shit so we can show that we can't police the entire world. But we'll spend our last damn dime trying, won't we?
     
  7. Moonglow181

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    I don't know if it is a responsibility for France.....cannot speak for anyone other than myself....but speaking very generally here and not about Iraqis, necassarily...very generally speaking......if something does nothing but hurt something else, it is time to cut the ties completely. ....just common sense.

    I guess there is not not enough to rebuild over here....bridges and roads falling apart....etc.
     
  8. Moonglow181

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    reminds me of an old quote...

    "Here let me help you so much, give you the tools, and then you can destroy me or try to...."
     
  9. Piaf

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    It is to them.
    I am always shocked to read comments on certain articles on Al Jazeera Balkans.
    These sunni radicals have no respect for other people, boundaries or borders, other religions, and cannot even tolerate shia muslims.
    They even have their facebook groups lol, with pictures and articles about isis progress, celebrating martyrs and jihad, publishing interviews with their soldiers....
    Isis really needs to be stopped.
     
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  11. Coleco

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    Does the USA have a responsibility to help all of africa?
     
  12. Wizardofodd

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    For what specifically? That's a big place.
     
  13. JimInPhila

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    I like the way the media is finally reporting the real issue this time, 'Sunni vs Shiite.'
    To answer the question, NO! No more "help." We have done everything possible.
    The Baghdad government's inability to take control their country is obvious.
    The Shiites in power still hate and discriminate against the Sunni and vica versa.
    Typical, "My Allah is better than your Allah." Muslims certainly don't have the monopoly on that.
    I think it all started ~800 A.D., both sides claiming "legitimacy."
    We will never come up with a compromise for them, nor should we.
    I'm all for dividing the "country," or lack there of, into three. Kurds in the northeast, Shiites in the eastern section and Sunnis in the western part.
     
  14. Coleco

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    Well theres all kinds of problems with that big place, it needs help. All the famine, war, and evil rulers.
    My question is just a way of stimulating critical thinking, im not really looking for an answer.
    The OP asked "should we help iraqis", so I asked "should we help africa".
    Why help iraq? What does it change? What better reason is there to help iraq rather than help all the other crummy miserable 3rd world countries.

    What are we helping Iraq for? Is it because they need it and because we are nice so we are going to clean things up there get rid of an evil dictator and make it a democracy like we have? Or are we helping them because the twin towers got attacked by islamic terrorists and the ones who planned it were hiding in iraq along with a bunch of weapons of mass destruction?
     
  15. storch

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    Not necessarily. We could invade another country and take what we need from them to repair or replace what we've destroyed in Iraq. And then we could invade yet anther country and take from them what we need to replace what we took from the the country we stole from to replace Iraq's stuff. And we could do that until we run out of countries. It sounds like a plan. You need to learn to think outside the money-box.
     
  16. ginalee14

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    Separation or division, especially in close proximity, won't solve anything. They're hell bent and determined.

    Islam is spreading out world wide, and so I think it matters to everyone. What they're doing in IraQ matters to the entire planet. Plus, they've made threatening promises to invade Jerusalem, Sinai, Rome, Jordan, Lebanon and even the United States. These guys have big delusions that have to be taken seriously. After all, they ARE chopping people's heads off.

    I hope the space aliens get involved.
     
  17. Wizardofodd

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    Ah. Got ya now. Fair enough. Good point.
     
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    I think the (simplistic) premise is the the US (we shall ignore the details of other countries) invaded Iraq and then was asked to leave - should the US go back and help with 'boots on the ground' etc.
     
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    Shia Muslims are not with out guilt.

    Not sure 'both as bad as each other' but the whole division is beyond me.
     
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    I don't think that was the question.

    I think the US spent/spends enough in Iraq already. Trillions?
     

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