Does the USA have a responsibility to help the Iraqis?

50 miles is a very short distance. Should I dismiss it as entirely irrelevant, insignificant? Nah.

 

I said that obviously the invasion had consequences, but now that the Iraqi government has taken ownership (as indicated in previous posts) It is up to them to solve the issues in the here and now.
You have to ask, why did the ISIS murder all of those soldiers?
Because of Tony Blair/ 2003 invasion?

Did these chaps have their fingers chopped of because of Tony Blair/ 2003 invasion...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9CfuRcEyNQ"]Afghan Police Kill Taliban Who Cut Off Voters' Fingers - YouTube

 

Regularity. Commonplace. But commonplace and regularity doesn't make normalcy.

 

You said the Russians were flying over California. But they were not exactly flying over California. It was 50 miles away. So I ask, has the US ever triggered Russian defense systems flying 50 miles from Russia?
Of course you are not going to dismiss it - because you are ginalee

 

Pardon?

 

lol

This must be an example of "nit-picking" (not like I want to join in on that headache, I don't .. but at the same time, I do see it).

Okay, so flew over / near are not the same thing. Fine. But that doesn't take away from the fact that Russia visited the United States, to which Barack played followed the leader by going to California for Father's Day weekend. Say something about that picture ...

"has the US ever triggered Russian defense systems flying 50 miles from Russia?" You tell me.

 

No! Just now. =D

 

I get that you used the word 'normal' for something that is commonplace .. happens regularly. But commonality doesn't make normalcy. I'm not saying that YOU think that shit is normal, none of us do. It's just a clarification of terms.

 

ginalee14

I guess 'nit-picking' is picking up on vagueness.

There IS a difference between flying OVER Californiana and 50 miles away.
The human sight could not have even seen those planes from California.

I'm not quite sure I have any idea what you are saying.

I'm not quite sure of the controversy you are suggesting.

I might have to go visit some conservative muck-racking site... give me a minute or two.

Yes.

 

Balbus seemed to be suggesting that all Iraqi's have been in air raid shelters for the last 11 years.
I'm not going to argue about the word 'normal'.
You both know what I meant.

 

'If the US ends up with a sweet petro deal after all these transgressions we'll have more insight as to the true motives of why we went back in to save the day'

As mentioned earlier, they will not.

 

What I'm saying is what I said, no more and no less. I'm not "suggesting" anything .. they're just the basic, simple facts of current events. I just happen to see it as Barack playing follow the leader. If you don't see it that way, fine.

Let me know which site you go to so I can stalk you. Thanks.

Got a link for the U.S. flying NEAR Russia?

 

Follow the leader?

'Russia visited the United States, to which Barack played followed the leader by going to California for Father's Day weekend.'

I really don't get it.

Published: July 3, 2009
The Russian government has agreed to let American troops and weapons bound for Afghanistan fly over Russian territory, officials on both sides said Friday. The arrangement will provide an important new corridor for the United States military as it escalates efforts to win the eight-year war.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/04/world/europe/04russia.html?_r=0

 

No matter. It isn't alarmist or terrifying, so let's just get back to talking about IraQ.

Thanks for the link.

 

I wonder why it was mentioned :/ I wouldn't mind understanding 'the argument' you were trying to convey. But yeah, whatever.

 

Odon most of your posts have a very combative tone. Is this a pragmatic approach to stimulate more productive conversation or is it an ego thing?

 

I read through the last few pages, not sure what I'm looking for. ISIS is very new to me and their current growth rate is new to the world right? What makes you sure this second time around central bankers won't finagle there way into a good situation. It's rare that they don't get their way in the end. Perhaps they pull the plug on the democracy project and install another dictator citing the inability of the population to coexist?

 

I only mentioned it because IraQ has near total dominance on mass attention right now (understandable) ... but I just think that Russia flying *near the United States west coast is something people should be aware of.

I'm not arguing anything. Or suggesting anything. It's just current events. Thanks for making me sorry that I ever mentioned it. hmph!

 

Exactly, and controlling the flow of oil is a convoluted business, it's difficult for the armchair analyst to see where it all comes together.

 

Sorry. If I am 'passionate' about something I do get a little 'exercised' about it. It's not an ego thing. Honest.

What are you talking about? Please go further. Thank You.