Religion’S Longest Running Victims. Women.

It is mind set that holds back men of intelligence.

Notice how little your government has done to chastise the Vatican for institutionalizing their pedophile protection.

If the men and women in your country do not care enough to try to stop their children's abuse and being raped and the rapists being protected, then shame on all of us. We are all without morals or love for our children.

If we cannot love our children enough to act for their care, we will not act for a better care or equality of women.

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DL

 

And there we have another fanatic.

Calling himself "Greatest I Am".

This shit never stops.

Ever.

 

2 big and misplaced if's. Do you even know which country's government is actually mine? It seems most pedos here are not catholic. And they aren't left in peace.

 

Cant refute anything so go after the personal. Thanks child. All will see how bright you are.

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DL

 

More childish games.

Denial without facts.

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DL

 

While others just post stock answers.

Oh, by the way you might want to really get behind the meaning of the word "refute".

Maybe that will help your SS cause.

 

The Catholic church has oppressed everyone, especially women, since their conception. look at pagans, look at Galileo and other great minds who the church silenced. look at the woman who died because a catholic hospital wouldn't take out her dead fetus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar
no, i won't forgive the church for it's atrocities and what it's done to silence science and progress.
as a woman, i love contraception, i love pleasure and sex for the sake of pleasure and passion, i am a free goddess uninhibited by silly concepts of sin and what my body is 'supposed' to do.

 

Lol you're not a goddess.
You are just a vain, overly liberal, stereotypical hippy chic.

 

And pagans never oppressed anyone You have to put the medieval actions of the church and other organisations, just like certain mindsets of people that lived in those days in the appropriate context of the times. If you really have a clue what people knew with certainty back then and with what kind of struggles they were living you would understand it was not all deliberate oppression. They were just dealing with life and all the questions it raises in their own way. Well, the people who had time for that anyway, most were not really living or concerned about pleasure in the first place: they were surviving.

 

Women were prominent members of the first century church. In fact, at times they outnumbered men, and offered thier homes as places for meetings and worship. Luke (8:1-3) mentions three Mary Magdelene; Susanna, and Joanna, wife of a high ranking member of Herod Antipas' household. These women helped to support Jesus and His Apostles "out of their own means", and they travelled with them, which was scadalous for the era. Paul also had his patronnesses. He greets some of them in his letters, and calls one the equivalent of "deacon" and another "apostle". But as more men joined the church, they took it over, and womebn took a back seat. In "Paul's" pastoral letter to Timothy, in particular, widely believed to have been a forgery women are relegated to a subordinate position.

 

So I can see you are deflecting the discussion beyond women, is that because you are seeing the ground on which you stand coming out from under you?

I did read about Savita Halappanavar's death, and it is sadly a preventable death; however it is not simply a case of she wasn't given an abortion, but that her doctors refused to give her proper medical care in regards to monitering her situation.


You are welcome to allow yourself to be objectified, I will not deny you that--but please do not go about spouting cliches against the Church if you are not willing to back them up logically or rationally.

 

Thus who died, man for God, or god for Man? Criminals die for Man. Fanatics is a mis-nomer.

I mean to argue that women is the verse you are reeling for the values of the wicked. IIt is then that human rights are considerate.

 

Atta girl. Woman that is.

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DL

 

You mentioned back seat.

Rosa Parks moved from the back of the bus and changed the law of the land.

Does government then not have an obligation to move Affirmative Action?

Should moral justice seeking men and women not petition government to act?

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DL

 

If the Dark Ages need to be proven to you then you show how little you know of history.

You need not go that far back either to find loving Christian ways. Just google church and orphanages with infant murder and read of Christian love.

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DL

 

You mean human love. Christians are humans in the first place and not doing everything out of their religion as you like to project onto them. If you mean a specific kind of christian, like (certain) priests or the christians from a specific country (or era), you should mention that. If you don't you will always come across as stereotyping and generalizing, which of course is exactly what you are doing..

 

If you mean the government of the United States, last I looked there is affirmative action for women, and it seems to be progressing nicely. Especially encouraging is the unprecedented advanvement of women in higher education. In 2011, women surpassed men in getting college degrees and graduate degrees. Over 20 million U.S.women have bachelor's degrees compared to less than 19 million men, and more U.S. women age 25 & older now have masters or higher degrees than men. Women in the U.S. haven't been shy about peteitoning their government for action, and politicians who ignore their rights and interests do so at their peril--as the republicans found out in the 2012 presidential election.

 

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Women also seem to be making gains in mainline Protestant and Progressive Christian churches. Episcopal Bishop Catherine Jeffords Schori has attained the highest level of power in the Anglican Church: Primate of an Anglican province. Ninety-seven out of 100 Episcopal diocese now ordain women. The UCC has been ordaining women in the United States for 150 years, and today 27% of active UCC clergy are women. In the United Methodist Curch, 22% of the bishops, three-quarters of the deacons, and over 18% of the clergy are women.

 

B S as usual.

I do not offer a stereotype. I offer a place to go for the facts that Christians do not like to face about their immoral religion.

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DL

 

This is nice but I was thinking more in terms of equal pay for equal work pay. Women are still at 70& of what men make.

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DL