Muslims in the uk.

I reccomend a book called, Islam under Siege. It explores the role of Islam today and answers questions such as, Why are women subjergated, why do Islam hate the west, and do muslims hate christians and jews. Of course one must look at the wider picture. There are a lot of muslims that preach terrorism. But many good muslims (Though rare) suggest, extremists are not Muslims.

For me, Islam is one of contradiction. It is a powerful religion and is growing by the hour. Britain is one place that they obviously feel comfortable in. As anyone who questions immigrants regardless of legality status, is deemed a zenophobe. So we arrive back at the start of previous debates.

 

You sure don't write comments like mamaKCita used to write. She was a beautiful, kind woman. Have you highjacked her name somehow?

 

you must not have read all my posts. i have three days of kind, three days of unruly bitch, three days of rational, three days of horny beyond beliefe, three days of crusader for the rights of the downtrodden, the rest of the time i'm just a snarky bitch.

 

WHats this 240m Muslims in England?

I know their terraced houses are bigger on the inside than outside.
But where do the 240m actually live?Have they got a TARDIS or something?LOL

 

Yeah yeah yeah, so you dont mind that people can believe in wrong beliefs and act on them??
I happen to be a valid member of this society and my opinion is that these muslims should become honest and declare either their loyalty to a secular Britain, or they should fuck off. But these things are certainly a fact and that is I am not a racist, I dont dislike people because of their race but because of their refusal to become a part of the society that feeds them.
When in Rome do as the Romans do. and if these people declare their support for fellow muslims above their support for the British government in its fight against foreign muslims then they should fuck off, and furthermore. To help this country in its fight against these unpatriotic morons I have never voted but if it comes to it - I would prefer to hand my vote and my country over to the BNP than to a load of fucking sensless koran pushers.
I would prefer to live under the intollerence of a western nazi regime than an eastern nazi regime, but until I do vote my politics are broadly to the right of cameron

Once people realise that these morons really do hate this country and want to impose their stupid religious system on it is the minute that people will become openly hostile and my true belief is that British muslims should shut up and stay shut up or face the consequences of the British public who will drive them out by force one day

 

Oh hang on I think I misunderstood you then, because I thought you were saying come on everyone lets be tollerant- so I thought - why the fuck should I be tollerant of an intollerant doctrine like islam ? I would prefer to fight fire with fire

 

I like this fight fire with fire thing.
I am all about tolerance, but tolerance has to go both ways. And I havent seen any tolerance coming from Islam. All I've seen is oppression and agression.
I probably sound like a racist again, but whatever.
I gave up on this thread a while ago.

 

My dad used to say "Always fight fire with fire"
erm ... I think that's why they dismissed him from the fire brigade

 

I actually dont have a problem with Muslims.
I just dont want them around me.

 

Could it not be a thing about Islam finding its way in a modern western world? After all if we are to look at the history of Christianity we would all be wanting to burn, hang, shoot and alienate everyone of them. Bagging up all sects of this religion smacks of people's ignorance. If it's about young British Muslims turning to extreme orthodoxy doesn't it say more about the society they have grown up in? I feel as disenfranchised and marginalised within this country as anyone and I would be looked upon as the classic example of what people would count as British, take away the accent. Be it negative or positive one things for sure people are taking notice of Islam which is what the main item on the agenda was.

 

doesn't it say more about the society they have grown up in?

yes it says we need to tighten up our laws regarding the rights of religion in this country. It may have escaped your notice in the history of this country but we actually fought a civil war here which was partially about removing the divine right of the monarch and about making the church separate from the state. we certainly dont want to replace christianity with islamic religion. As far as it goes if people in the islamic tradition cannot integrate peacefully it is because islamic countries are still engaged in the feudal system, and its supporters should realise we have had modernism here for 400 years. People here like it and are becoming extremely pissed off that hard fought wars are ignored that the history of this country is ignored but not much longer. I along with hundreds of thousands of other will ensure parliament will listen to the argument that only people who speak perfect or near perfect english can come in here and only after they accept certain tennets of society as being sacred above all other considerations. they dont like it - let em fock orff

And now we have noticed and dont like it - and you know what I think they woke a giant up - not a good thing to do, unfortunately a few fascist islamist creeps have gone and shit in the same water supply the less extreme were drinking from and er someone is gonna have to clean up this mess some day and if it aint the muslim community it will be someone they dont like that's why I said they should shut up now and stay shut up because the right wing has a habit of leaping up and biting the arse of anything it dont like and I will predict that it is not long before the public in this country begin to vote for the extreme right wing in many more numbers than previously. I have never voted but will use my first vote on the far right if this outrageous bollocks these islamists want is pursued much more

 

No it wasn't. Parliament was about taking away that absolute power of monarchy which can be traced back to Henry III. Again, it's debatable as to whether the English Civil War was just that, or more about reorganizing the established rights of the gentry considering Cromwell's uncle was the 1st Earl of Essex, while using the ideals and resources of the New Model Army to gain public support. To argue about religion and the state, Cromwell's puritan zeal is as famous as his military finesse, making England into a religious totalitairan state as Lord Protectorate.

The point is that THESE muslims you talk about are nevertheless as British as you and I and if they are feeling isolated and marginalised then we may have to look at how we are as a whole. No one's talking about giving or losing anything but accepting that we are living in a different society than fifty years ago whether you like it or not.

 

It is only a matter of decades before we finally see Sharia Law being implemented. In some ways, Britain will be so far down the road of devastation. Any Sharia law that comes in would be "desired".

 

Ah you see... thats the attitude I object to - yes it will come if you have that attitude. All it takes is to say - not even over my dead body and to teach your kids that sharia law is a hunk of shit they should never accept - also we can demand the imprisonment of anyone who advocates sharia law above the UK law as laid down in parliament.

 

Haven't heard from John for a while. Just sayin'

 

I reckon he's now working for MI6, gone underground

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11047109/British-jihadist-who-beheaded-journalist-is-Londoner-called-John.html

British born ... from London ... calls himself "J0hn" ...

 

Not his style. I think he's more likely to be J0hn The Baptist now than J0hn The Jihadist

 

Those figures might be presented. But its obvious they are pisstaking the general public.
White Britons are just 44% of London. Muslims/Asians will soon represent over half of many of our cities.


The real KILLER stat is the amount of under 25s, under 16s etc. Put simply, indigneous Brits arent reproducing. Whereas, Indians, Pakistanis, Africans are having 2, 3, 4 or more kids.

There isn't a single country in the world that has had a large Muslim population (Shiite, Sunni etc) and NOT had substantial bloodshed. POst colonial India, Kosovo, Nigeria, Checnhnya, other Caususes in Russia etc etc. Remember most Muslims in Britain are from Pakistan, Arabia, NIgeria etc. Absolute hotbeds of extremist Islam, NOT the moderate forms.

There is an absolute nightmare unfolding. In sleepy English towns, you see whole schools are Muslim, and targetted for conversion to extremism. I wonder what proportion of inner Londoners in school are indigenous Brits? 10%? 20% Certainly not much more. Same in many towns in England.