Religion’S Longest Running Victims. Women.

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by GreatestIam, Aug 9, 2014.

  1. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    That's your choice. Acting as though it's morally superior in any way to the choices of others is what I question.

    Regardless of what you think about people's level of control (or need for it), abstinence-only has shown to be disastrous in terms of its effects on preventing pregnancy and STDs. It's a stance that not only contradicts scientific consensus, but also compels people to repress natural biological urges. To me that's what is actually "incredibly demeaning."

    Is thy load really so holy that we should push a doctrine that ruins lives?
    Loads > Lives?
     
  2. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    That simply isn't true. By condemning divorce for both men and women, Jesus was correcting Judaic practice of allowing men, but not women, to divorce their spouses at will.
     
  3. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    Burning was definitely a method that was used for both heretics and witches. The preference for hanging was in Salem.
     
  4. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Drowning was a common method too. If they would float they would be accused of being a witch and get killed, if they would drown they would be proven not to be a witch but yeah... drown.
     
  5. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    Teenagers are very different than adults. I was speaking as an adult to other adults.

    Let me clarify: You stated that people will "just have sex regardless..." and I think that using that as a justification for supporting a proposition is very flimsy. People will do a lot fo things regrdles of the consequences to themselves and others (from speeding, to smoking cigs, to murder) but that does not make them justifiable.

    You then state that I am "committing women to be pregnant when they do not wish to be", which I read as "you force women to become pregnant". Again, just because you say that people will have sex regardless of the consequences is not sufficient grounds to say that a voluntary belief system suppresses or violates women. Women can easily choose when to become pregnant (aside from cases of rape).

    Mainly, I was not arguing from a society wide perspective, but generally from a Church perspective; just that the ocnsequnces the Church says can occur with widespread use can occur.
     
  6. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    DL .. is it really not possible for you to understand the crucifixion? "genocidal son murdering God" is an extremely limited, human minded MISTAKEN thing to say.

    YOU are the brains of the religious (I've never met such a devout, avid religiousy person as YOU!). So, what the hell is wrong with you? Why the Hell (pause... )

    I'm only typing this, to be honest with ya, because I'm suffering terrible insomnia. Took me into 80 hours a few weeks ago of absolute inability to sleep. It's getting worse. If I'm not paying attention to something, the chance of carving myself up is highly likely. I sliced a pretty star in my stomach, just because I'm too poor for the new tattoos I'm craving. Even though I know the reasons why people aren't supposed to get tattoos, I'm already tattooed so getting more is inconsequential beyond the damage I've already done at this point.

    Where Christ is the symbol of forgiveness, and by the crucifixion a new law was made, why do you presume that there are people in this world SO very hostile against Christ (ie. forgiveness) and Christians? What is life like, what are we like, what is human nature like ... without CHRIST (oops, I mean .. forgiveness)??

    Answer the questions please.
     
  7. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I'm prone to cuts usually by accident. If you keep me occupied I'm unlikely to have an accident to have an accident with a sharp object lest it be my wit.
     
  8. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    Yeah you give me good chuckles, smarty cakes.

    I never have accidents, I'm a blatant calamity :D
     
  9. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Good thing you made up there I was about to fall asleep.
     
  10. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    I almost missed the opportunity. My wifi likes to cut out on me, leave me hanging.

    My two best friends, dip and hydramine, are trying (and failing) to take me to bed. I think you'll beat me to it, falling asleep. Lucky you :p
     
  11. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Sounds like a challenge, i'll drone you into it...
     
  12. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    It's possible I may be impervious to droning, unless it's a murderous U.S. drone dropped on me on account of mistaken identity. I swear I am not the reincarnated soul of whatever bad guy existed at the tail end of the 1700's!
     
  13. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    The drones' main function is to be ready to fertilize a receptive queen. Drones in a hive do not usually mate with a virgin queen of the same hive because they drift from hive to hive. Mating generally takes place in or near drone congregation areas. It is poorly understood how these areas are selected, but they do exist.
     
  14. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    Aww, no wonder ... the poor thing has to go to war!
     
  15. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    My dog just came up to me for some hi how are you. Seems a dislexic statement considering the thread.
     
  16. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    Good dog, even if s/he is dyslexic lol

    Good evening, thedope.

    Want to know what women are REALLY victims of? The alphabet. Meet "the conflict between word and image", The Alphabet Vs The Goddess. I read it years ago, had to put the book aside when a passage I read gave me mental imagery that I could not tolerate. hahahaha

    Anyway, slept for 16 hours and I have another long stretch of 30+ hours of unbreakable consciousness to have to manage. I hope DL shows up to answer my questions.
     
  17. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Hi there ho there hey there you're as welcome as can be...
     
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  18. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    I am not speaking of heaven at all. It is here where men and women are asked to forgo finding loving life mates.

    Regards
    DL
     
  19. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    Exactly. No divorce at all. Immoral as well as anti-love as it makes for unhappy people who must live together.

    Regards
    DL
     
  20. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    How will you get yourself into heaven? On your own merit or via a scapegoat?

    Revisit substitutionary atonement or vicarious redemption and scapegoating with me just to refresh your memory.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNtBkOXItqw

    I am not an atheist but Satan and Christians want atheists to embrace barbaric human sacrifice and the notion that we should profit from punishing the innocent instead of the guilty. Scapegoating IOW.

    In reality, if God did demand such a barbaric sacrifice, he would be sinning as we all know that it is immoral to kill the innocent. God knows this yet Christians do not seem to. You do. Right?

    Those with good morals will know that no noble and gracious God would demand the sacrifice of a son just to prove it's benevolence. When you die, Satan will ask you; how was your ticket to heaven purchased? With innocent blood?

    If and when you say yes, you become his.

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    The other option in scriptures, a moral one, is shown here. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

    Scriptures indicate that God prefers repentance to sacrifice and as God’s will is supreme and cannot be thwarted, this will come to pass.

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    It is a special distorted Christian view of love that sees, --- as the greatest act of love possible, --- their God condemning them, and then turning and demanding his son’s deaths and thus corrupting God's perfect justice. A bribe set by God as judge himself for himself. This is of course ridiculous.

    Christians have an insane view of love, IMO.

    Would you express your love for humanity or those you love by having your own child needlessly murdered?

    Or if convinced that a sacrifice was somehow good, would you have the moral fortitude to step up yourself to that cross instead of sending your child?

    Your cowardly God did not.

    Regards
    DL
     

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