Feeling safe

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by broony, Aug 18, 2012.

  1. Marebare

    Marebare Member

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    it's my life, I cope in my way. We lived here way before the shit hit the fan. Mexico has always been a corrupt country. I've lived between Guatemala - another really interesting study in insecurity - and Mexico except for the years I studied in the states. The people in the US don't know how good they have it. I'd like to live there but my life for now, is here where all my family and friends are. We can live pretty normal lives....I'm just extra paranoid but I think I have a right to be that way. Yes, I'd like to move but it's easier said then done. I a few weeks I'll be going down to Guat until Christmas and even though there are big problems there I will feel more freedom to walk the streets - maybe I'm stupid, I probably am. I'll never win any prizes for smart thinking that I know for sure!
     
  2. Dancing til Dawn

    Dancing til Dawn Senior Member

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    I am not in USA and I would not say it is a 'safe' country either. You just learn to deal with things as they are I guess. I totally understand you have made a life for yourself there.
    You must be bright you have survived this long !

    Be well, stay safe and have fun in Guatemala
    :2thumbsup:
     
  3. IamnotaMan

    IamnotaMan I am Thor. On sabba-tickle. Still available via us

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    I suppose I feel "prepared" and confident I can handle usual difficulties.

    Hmm. I've had lots of "incidents" over the years. And touch wood, always managed to deal with them. The reality in Britain is that some people will always get a thrill trying to attack others with bottles, glasses, fists or whatever. Since I was a little kid, I studied martial arts as feeling safe is important to me. I've never carried guns here( we have strict firearms laws).

    In reality, I think one of the best ways to be safe is to minimise potential problems.I've got friends, family and colleagues who've either needed armed bodyguards or worked as armed bodyguards. Its not fun IMO.
     
  4. volunteer_tommy

    volunteer_tommy Elongated Member

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    I never ever feel safe, broony-the-not-brony. Never. And that's good. To know death is around the corner waiting, and that nothing is certain besides change. We all come and go in the telling of the tale - as long as I have a good impact on the overall story, I'm fine. Then again... I have had an illness since birth where one mistake could kill me, so death has always been a lurking reality. When developing my personality, my psychology, I had to deal with that. And that's what I came up with to keep myself from going insane. Works well. Has a big impact on my psychology (when I remember it), but less on my actions. For instance, I was never prone to that "invincible" feeling of your average teen - I know the risks when I do something stupid :D I know when I can handle myself, and when I can't. Although... the place where I live can be considered quite "safe"

    The thrill is in the assessment, and doing it if you think the risk is worth it. The common problem of the intellectual circles, the difference between sitting on your ass and thinking and living real life - is that these two different things don't have to be separate, even though they usually are and are treated as such. I'm grateful, not for feeling safe, but not for feeling safe
     
  5. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    feeling safe is an illusion as long as aggressiveness is encouraged to dominate and rewarded for doing so.

    i love the idea of feeling safe.

    i'd just feel safer if people didn't insist on denying the relationship between aggressiveness and tyranny.

    as for death, i'm in no hurry to get there, but even without it, tyranny (which IS the dominance of aggressiveness) is one hell of a lot scarrier.
     
  6. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    A feeling is a feeling not an illusion unless you think that we can have feelings that are not real. We certainly can have feelings for imaginary things or reasons. The thing that scares you is pain and death, not violence.as for this reason violence seems to coerce. You will always feel threatened as long as you feel defenses are necessary. I feel pain and face certain death every day yet this does not move me shy away from peacefully enjoying my life and feeling perfectly safe in every instance.as our being in the world speaks to our fundamental safety. Reality supports it's constituents, Fantasy produces cautionary tales or the specter of terrifying outcomes. While you may feel you would be safer if other people had different ideas about the world, you can rest assured that it is your ideas about the world that account for your degree of comfort in it.
     
  7. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    you are trying to speak for someone else and i'm sorry but you are mistaken. yes the dominance of aggressiveness, which is tyranny, DOES scare me more then death itself.
    you don't think there's a difference, even in fear, between dying alone in a peaceful state of meditation, or in peaceful sleep, and dying being kicked in the face by a jackboot in a death camp?
     
  8. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I am speaking to you themnax, about us and the effects of our thinking. I think there is no difference in the power of one thought or another to affect your emotional state. You posit fear for an imagined scenario. Kick me in the head first and then ask me to compare.
     
  9. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    really? you are harder for me to believe then i am for you.
    you try to tell everyone that no fear can possibly be greater then death,
    and they you say you would prefer to die by having your head kicked off by a jackboot in a death camp?
     
  10. thedope

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    No, I said that the fear you talk about is of pain and death. I think fear is a liar in every instance. I pointed out that pain and death are constant companion to anyone's life. I've also said that we can become fearful over imagined scenarios or things that are not immediately relevant and frankly this kind of fear makes people dangerous because our perceptions affect our reasonable responses. The U.S. has the conviction that right makes might legitimate, that it's fear is well founded.
     
  11. Bassline514

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    I feel safe to a certain extent. I'm not overly paranoid, like I don't stop myself from going to the convenience store at night if I want or need something, but at the same time I don't take useless risks so I never really feel unsafe. I live in a semi-dangerous area, lots of poverty, drug abuse, gangs and pimps, but on the other side the neighborhood got a nice community spirit, everybody knows everybody, everybody knows who lives where and who is up to what, etc., which I think contributes a lot to make me feel safe in such a place.
     
  12. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    More of a general question......


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzw1_2b-I7A




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  13. tarotsailor

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    Nobody's safe.

    I feel capable.
     
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  14. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    At home and around my neighborhood, yes. Downtown, not so much.
     
  15. Bassline514

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    I think safety starts in between your ears, it's a state of mind. Some feel safe in ghettos and others would manage to be able to worry for their safety while living in a guarded fortress, so it's all a question of perspective I guess.
     
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  16. tarotsailor

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    "Awareness is the highest form of martial art." Bruce Lee.
     
  17. AmericanTerrorist

    AmericanTerrorist Bliss

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    Overall, yes.

    I try not to worry about things I can't do anything about anyways.
     
  18. AmericanTerrorist

    AmericanTerrorist Bliss

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    On the news last night I saw that a woman who was six months pregnant got attacked a block away from my house in an alley. Her fiance apparently tried to stand up for her and got beaten so severely by three guys (only one who has since been caught) that he is in the hospital comatose and his face is BADLY messed up.

    Does that worry me? No, there would be no point... plus I tell myself you never really know the full story.
     
  19. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Exactly you don’t know the relationship between the assailants/attackers/goons and the victims.


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