Isis

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Pressed_Rat, Sep 3, 2014.

  1. BlackBillBlake

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    Hmm...I agree with that.

    I think part of the problem is that there are a certain number of people who want to see conspiracy in everything, and who will just routinely go against anything their governments are doing. I'm not an admirer of either the US or UK governments. But since we have inflamed the situation, I think we need to act to protect the lives of ordinary people.
     
  2. BlackBillBlake

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    It's not. But they do seem to have a a particular variety of barbarism all their own. I don't mean all Muslims are like that, just these fanatics who want to impose their views on everyone else.
     
  3. Asmodean

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    And ideally as one front with a clear, objective and peaceful goal and not under the banner of our own nation(s).
     
  4. BlackBillBlake

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    It should be under an international force IMO.
     
  5. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I almost dare to say: evidently.
     
  6. AmericanTerrorist

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    The media has been talking about ISIS non-stop pretty much.

    I have also seen numerous articles on them in magazines...pretty much everywhere.
     
  7. IamnotaMan

    IamnotaMan I am Thor. On sabba-tickle. Still available via us

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    Its all bullshit. The puppetmasters of Bathhouse Barry are oil frackers, GM crop cos, and arms cos.

    The drama and bullshit surrounding Ballsack Barry I've seen today is astounding. The locals seem to be kissing ass like some "King of the World" is visiting. Sickly pr stunts with schoolkids etc. The whole atmosphere of the NATO summit as I've seen it, is a tradefair of death. Its only really got ONE seller - the American puppetmasters.

    All these bullshit arms deals announced and how they'll be "great for jobs". But its all lies. Bullshit military expenditure cripples countries, apart from certain tiny groups.

    America claims to lead in world in military tech. There's the disastrously useless F35 outside the hotel and these silly little robotic toys flying round the hotel masquerading as "super tech". Just like the fake Star Wars program hyped up by Reagan. And they're trying to sell these Osprey planes, 4% of which have fallen out of the sky. Some of the rest of it is just incredible.

    Everyone's pressured into signing deals. Or "there will be consequences". Everyone's told "the big bad wolf is gonna get you". (The Saddam has WMDs type bullshit gets reinvented every year). But the only wolf that gets anyone is Uncle Sam by creating these monsters like ISIS, AlQaeda, the Kiev Nazis.

    These twats make Enron and Madoff look classy.
     
  8. Wizardofodd

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    Here is one link but there are plenty available from various sources.

    http://guardianlv.com/2014/06/isis-trained-by-us-government/

    This story presents the possibility that they were trained to be sent into Syria and the plan backfired. There are other theories too. One is the "Swarm strategy" (if I remember correctly). That strategy is to draw most of the extremists to one place and then presumably kill them all. That plan has problems though. There is another theory regarding Israel and a strategy that the best way to protect Israel is to have an enemy near it's doorstep. It may benefit us to use a group like that to pressure other govts (such as Iraq) in different ways. Everyone wanted Al-Maliki out and he resigned uneventfully as ISIS spread quickly across Iraq. Could be a coincidence. It could be any number of things really. It could also be a combination of reasons.

    I find it interesting that the guy who supposedly beheaded those people had a British accent and also interesting that I saw a pic today that appeared to be a masked ISIS militant with a US Army tattoo on his arm.
     
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  9. IamnotaMan

    IamnotaMan I am Thor. On sabba-tickle. Still available via us

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    Its very widely reported that America, GB etc were funding and arming Muslim extremists, including Al Qaeda, because they wanted Assad and the Russian naval base out of Syria. Russia and some NATO politicians DID protest vs this.

    The use of the term ISIS or IS is more recent. The fact is "how can an Islamic extremist group like this develop so quickly". Ofcourse it was set up by *some* (not all) nato forces - like GB+US.

    The facts behind Al Qaeda are equally well documented. Bush Sr called them "freedom fighters".

    Create a problem - demand a solution - then pocket the proceeds. Rinse and repeat.
    Because without wars and chaos no one will be intimidated into being in debt to Uncle Sam and its closest gimps like Britain.
     
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  10. Anaximenes

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    What is democracy? For all it's contrasts with systems of totalitarianism, truthfully shared monetary wealth, and decisions about laws that apply equally to all; democracy in the trusting of the trusted MUST BE LIED ABOUT. Just a random thought; that's a lie.; didn't I write the last sentence in jest in 2005?
     
  11. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    That type of thinking inspired me to write this list back 04'

    What has each member nation contributed to the coalition in Iraq?

    Afghanistan (Nothing)
    Angola (Head Lice)
    Albania (The dead blessings of Mother Teresa)
    Australia (A battalion of aborigines armed with boomerangs)
    Azerbaijan (Nothing)
    Bulgaria (Promises to patrol the Hellespont and stay out of our way)
    Colombia (Sent their mini-submarine fleet to patrol the Tigris)
    Czech Republic (Sent the complete works of Franz Kafka)
    Denmark (Free prostitutes for the U.S. Troops)
    Dominican Republic (Sent a shipment of sugarcane to the gulf)
    El Salvador (Sent a school of deadly Piranha to seed the Euphrates)
    Eritrea (Sent a squad of Massai warriors)
    Estonia (Provided technical support on how to manage an economy without Jews)
    Ethiopia (Sent their finest jugglers to entertain the troops)
    Italy (Free Pizza for the troops)
    Japan (Released Godzilla to use as plan B)
    Kuwait (Nothing, but they do have sand as far as the eye can see)
    Latvia (Promises not to Join NATO in 2004 …ooops! to late)
    Macedonia (Would have sent Alexander the Great but he’s been dead for centuries)
    Micronesia (Sent several crates of Pineapples)
    Mongolia (Captured several Yeti to put into action)
    Netherlands (Well they did recently legalize euthanasia)
    Nicaragua (Sent over a dozen chameleons to participate in a black-ops super-soldier experiment)
    Pakistan (Nothing, but it’s a good bet that’s where Osama bin laden is hiding out)
    Philippines (Imelda Marcos has promised to provide each female soldier with a pair of Gucci’s)
    Poland (Sent a 1001 Polish Jokes – literally)
    Romania (Received Count Dracula's personal assurance that he will suck the life's blood out of each Iraqi Soldier)
    Rwanda (Sent an elite squad of Silverback Mountain Gorillas)
    Singapore (Promises to provide all the opium the CIA can smuggle into The United States)
    Solomon islands (a free tattoo for every enlisted man)
    Spain (Sent the famed Spanish Armada to patrol the gulf, yes, the same armada that was destroyed in detail by the British navy in 1588)
    Uganda (Promises to provide a division of pygmies to put into action)
    United Kingdom (45,000 troops with bad teeth and bad breath)


    Hotwater
     
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  12. Irminsul

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    How come you decided to leave out America in your list?
     
  13. AmericanTerrorist

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    Not that I should speak for Hotwater but I think most likely because it's pretty obvious what America contributed to going into Iraq... ;)
     
  14. Irminsul

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    what was that, though? Casualties?

    I'm still paying too much for fuel and terrorism still exists.
     
  15. AmericanTerrorist

    AmericanTerrorist Bliss

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    Yea, I was thinking lots of death-same thing.
     
  16. Tyrsonswood

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    That's part of the plan.
     
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  17. Irminsul

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    Heh, I'm only kiddin' with you guys. =p
     
  18. -Yggdrasil-

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    Oh snap! I tend to agree there. From what Australian news feeds me, the Iraq thing was not much better than Vietnam. I often hear that both wars statistically favor America in terms of actual warfare casualties etc. but at the end of the day they say America never won any wars over there. I dunno though, don't really care I just like seeing bombs dropped and shit.
     
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  19. Irminsul

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    Bombs are always pretty nifty. =]
     
  20. hotwater

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    Because George Bush was so damn proud of his so-called coalition


    Hotwater
     
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