France Mourns 12 Dead In The War Against Free Speech

Would you classify ISIS and Al Qaeda as cults? I think ISIS in particular has become too big and powerful to fit the classic definition. No other cult has ever had its capabilities.

 

I rarely use the term cult for anything. About IS and Al Quaeda, I regard both as criminal organisations that abuse islam, though I recognize that a lot of members think they are actually fighting for it. Not all though.

 

Where should that blame go? To people and their deeds or to whatever happens to be their religious affiliation?

 

Point taken. No argument here.

All cults abuse the core teachings of their root religion.

That's the core of New Age philosophy. :cheers2:

 

my heart goes out to the families of the 12 who where murdered. it is time for Muslims leaders around the world to come out and speak out at militant Islam. to many remain silent. yes there are good Muslims and they are the majority. but to many sympathies with militant Islam. however we must not allow this attack be used as a tool for the government to take away our human rights any anyway as if it dose it is a victory for these terrorist. they must not be feared and life's must not changed as if dose this is a victory for terrorism. freedom of speech is a right for everyone. for me this picture says it all https://twitter.com/SaraAssaf/status/552956000433491968

 

The word below says "immortal"

 

In addition to all the relevant religious points being made, I want to continue to emphasize the free speech aspect. No matter how things play out, I very much want this battle of ideas played out on a level playing field. I believe that when all things are equal, the right side will always win. We can't allow a situation where fear prevents people from saying what they honestly think about any important matter. There can be no compromise on this point.

 

I guess I should clarify - I wasn't referring to one religion in particular.

Also, I dont think the western world can avoid terrorism unless it can learn to admit its own culpability.

 

satire or propaganda instigators? they brought it down upon themselves.. they didnt care whom they offended. they had been warned by the French president some years ago to cool it with the Islam bashing but they didnt listen.. their offices have been targeted before. seems to me, that its more a childish behavior making comics that endanger the common citizens and general public to make a buck on what is basically a bigot comic.. see how far a comic goes bashing negros in the usa, just saying..

when the bully in the school yard keeps making your momma joke and they go on and kick his ass into a bloody pulp., why bash the kid that finally stood up for themselves?

offending others has gone far enough, dont you think so you fucking faggots??

 

All I can say is that this event is extremely sad and should not be forgotten.

 

Seems a generalisation/oversimplication of reality to me. They (religion or religious person) do not require an 'out group' by default. I am also happy to inform you that I know plenty of followers of organized religion that do not believe they're superior than believers of other religions/ideologies.

 

There's a report now that the two Charlie Hebdo murderers have been killed.

 

Wasn't the hunt (or the news about it) on tv over there, Sunfighter? It was here (a lot of the time anway). Seemed they fled to a little town above Paris and they were found rather soon, but not directly caught.

 

CNN has covered the two hostage incidents all morning. Three terrorists are dead and apparently some hostages also.

 

Oh, sure, but I'm at work, just surfing the web for news.

 

To post 31- "they brought it down upon themselves." Murder of innocents because of words or images does not compute in my world.