Everyone Dead Now Will Live Again! Except For A Few

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by humanbeaing, Dec 21, 2014.

  1. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    The biblical scriptures are just not ment to all be taken literally. As long as people think and apply reason and logic to what it says it can of course become true reasoning just the same. Even if people come to a conclusion others would perceive as unlogical. If a christian manage to have religious faith next to his faith in science, reason and logic it does not mean that person's outlook on the world is inlogical or completely unreasonable. That would all depend on the person and how they exactly interpreted things, me thinks.
     
  2. Asmodean

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzsCMEVLndM

    :D
     
  3. expanse

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    I believe that's been photoshopped. Bush had a lot more gray in his hair than that.
     
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  4. Asmodean

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    Nope, it's just an older pic of him.
     
  5. humanbeaing

    humanbeaing see you in paradise! HipForums Supporter

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    Bible geography is correct and has been proven by archeological finds of cities in the bible. The names of kings and rulers have also been correct. There are 4 accounts of Jesus life and ministry. Detailed accounts of what happened and even the government leaders of that time being correct. Caesar, Pontius Pilate are the leaders of that time.
     
  6. IMjustfishin

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    that the bible's geographical information is correct shows that the book is very old. nobody is denying that fact. in my opinion, theres a strong possibility that jesus was a real man, and for the sake of this discussion i am happy to accept that he was real.

    these two facts however do not prove anything else and to say that these facts prove that anything else in the bible is a clear fallacy in your logic. allow me to illustrate your mistake with this example: have you seen the brad pitt movie inglorious basterds? it is a fiction but the geographical information is correct. also all the rulers are correct, just like in your argument. those two facts however do not prove that anything else in the movie is true.
     
  7. humanbeaing

    humanbeaing see you in paradise! HipForums Supporter

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    You do realize you just compared writings 2000¬3600 years old to a brad pitt movie.
     
  8. IMjustfishin

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    yes read carefully, i stand behind what i said because it is correct.
     
  9. Mr.Writer

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    How old something is does not determine how true it is. The religion of Zoroastrianism existed thousands of years before anything resembling the bible was written down, but obvious that doesn't convince you that it's true.
     
  10. thedope

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    I'm curious as to how, whether or not the bible is historically accurate, it would effect your behavior. Historical facts have not a lot to do with current choices other than the fact that you inherited biology. What is the purpose of the book, to provide history? We have better ways of looking into history like archaeology. The argument about historical accuracy is a meaningless sidebar whose proportions are undertaken by those who want to defend or assail beliefs about. This argument does not contend with the truth but only with other beliefs. All such beliefs being substitutes for genuine understanding of the material. Justbreathless101 does not experience what could be known for the sake of a pitiful doctrine. He imagines the benefits of spirit as yet to come and dreams of better times. The argument about historical accuracy being any kind of proof of legitimacy is like trying to polish the outside of the cup without drinking it's contents.
     
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  11. thedope

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    It is my position that we have all been here since the beginning. Jesus of nazareth was a sage in a lineage of sages that have been instrumental in guiding the higher aspirations of humanity and beyond that presents a resurrection technology which is used to transcend the illusion of lack which includes the illusion that death is the end of life. Very few actually apprehend this technology in a single lifetime as is suggested in the phrase many are called but few choose to listen. In this sense only is it relevant to say few survive. In eternity this difference does not matter but in time the toll in human suffering is tragic. To those who understand how we are all connected through time it becomes imperative to unravel ones own suffering so that we might end it at large through exemplary education.
     
  12. Mr.Writer

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    I suppose it makes a difference whether Jesus Christ was an actual divine being as opposed to the rest of us non divine beings and therefore what he said and the reports of what he did be held to a standard higher than that reserved for even the most incredible mortal man. The factual matters at hand here are still extremely relevant, even if you can derive from his teachings your own personal kingdom of heaven without believing in his divinity; for most people that is not possible.
     
  13. humanbeaing

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    I do remember that store.
     
  14. humanbeaing

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    Jehovah created everything from the earth so of course all living things will share dna, thats my point.

    And belief is more than wanting to believe something. You have to have belief that you are willing to die for and that can only come from knowledge.
     
  15. Mr.Writer

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    Not at all, lots of people are willing to die for beliefs that are not based on knowledge. Look at every muslim extremist who blows himself up; do you claim that he has knowledge of something factual? Did you just refute your own religion and admit that Islam is the true religion? Of course not. How firmly you believe something has no impact on whether or not that thing is true.
     
  16. IMjustfishin

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    pretty scary^

    i bet if you died for your beliefs your god would reward you, wouldn't he?
     
  17. IMjustfishin

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    heres another theory:

    The Flying Spaghetti Monster created everything on earth, so of course all living things will share DNA.


    and here is a third thoery:

    everything on earth shares DNA because they share a common ancestry.


    ok so we have three equally good arguments. now how do we go about solving which one is correct? maybe we should look at which theory has more supporting evidence?
     
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  18. humanbeaing

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    Yeah, real scary. I would stand up for my beliefs even if it cost me my life.
     
  19. guerillabedlam

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    Well it's not exact but upon first glance, the double helix structure does have a noodly quality about it.

    Point FSM
     
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  20. broony

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    this cant be factual proven. only hearsay.

    though I wouldn't count out the dead not knowing something about us we don't know. We can't see in there realm.
     
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