Oral Health -Oil Pulling And No Fluoride Toothpaste

I will reply to other comments later - on the go at present!

 

from the perspective of both western medicine and traditional chinese medicine, fluoride is good for you

 

Yep, don't know why it gets the back reputation it does. People are always complaining about the chemicals in toothpaste and mouthwash but like, if you aren't drinking the product and rinse your mouth then there's really nothing to be concerned about. IMO.

 

i think he's saying that there needs to be a scientific reason that this has benefits, not just because someone thought that it makes sense that it might remove toxins.

 

I guess if you are sensitive to a particular chemical, it could be a problem. I'd be a lot more worried about the artificial sweetners that they put in toothpaste than anything else.

I'm happy to have fluoride in my toothpaste and my drinking water though. I see every reason to think it's good, and no reason to think that it's bad.

Most of the anti-fluoride people seem to think it's bad for you because the governement puts it in the drinking water, therefor it must be a conspiracy.

 

Hold up.. The government???!!!!!



And what is the actual water they're worried about? Bottled water or tap water? Unless the labeling is complete facade then none of the water bottles I drink had fluoride... not too sure about the tap water but then we are able to catch our now and it melts into our water drum so I got nothing to really worry about anyway.

 

my issue is that his comments have been mostly condescending and not actually adding value to discussion. i appreciate the fluoride discussion we have going on right now - it is making us think exactly what it is doing to us and whether it is good or bad. But sarcastic comments without presenting a real view are uncalled for.

 

i agree - the mainstream toothpastes have artificial additives and some harsh bleaching chemicals also, which can be tough on the enamel and gums, and also get absorbed by in our body through our veins.

also, you may wish to check out this link that discusses the adverse effects of fluoride on brain:
http://fluoridealert.org/issues/health/brain/

i must admit that you and some others have raised a very good discussion point - whether fluoride is good or bad for us? I am actually doing extensive research on it myself - I like to be better educated and prepared too, even if it means having my perception challenged in the process. i will be doing a video in it in the next 2-3 weeks and will also post relevant scientific researches. i will post the link here for anyone who is interested. it's not about government conspiracies - its about our own health and well-being.

 

im glad your boyfriend found relief with oil pulling. i personally experienced these benefits too hence am sharing with others in hopes of helping them. i found this article which explains a bit more about how oil pulling works. hope it helps. http://oilpulling.com/howoilpullingworks.htm

i am planning another video on oral health, fluoride etc soon as my initial video generated some really good discussion points. i will post the link here. also, i have just changed the link to my oil pulling video - in case anyone is interested in watching it... here is the new link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDWVEZFCoOs

 

Fluoride is a naturally occuring mineral. Essentially any mineral can have negative effects if the concentration is high enough. Getting too much iron, for example, can cause health problems, but that doesn't mean that you would want to eliminate all iron from your body. It also has health benefits at the right levels.

The same is true for fluoride. There is every reason to think that the fluoride concentrations in drinking water and in tooth paste are safe and effective in preventing tooth decay.

According to the US CDC

http://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/safety/systematic.htm

 

has there ever been a documented case where a patient has suffered any harmful side-effects from normal levels of flouride from tap water or toothpaste?

 

From what I've researched, no. Fluoride water treatment programs are around .7-1.2 Mg/L.

I think that there have been some documented problems when natural fluoride levels in water are very high, more like 80 Mg/L.

Children under 2 may be especially vulnerable.


Eating toothpaste would probably be bad for you, but when used as directed fluoride toothpaste is quite safe.

 

I've been oil pulling for just short of a week now. Started with cheap extra virgin olive oil :ack2: BARF! Then I stole my mom's bottle of sunflower oil and used that the last few days. (She said i could take it before, so I did haha) I had been having horrible tooth pain when I laid down at night, keeping me up 2 or more hours after lying down to sleep and I've noticed a substantial decrease in pain in just less than a weeks time of doing this! I'm feeling a lot healthier in general as well! I've also started taking a multivitamin chewable so that might be contributing to the effect, but I believe oil pulling really does have a great effect on health. Whether it's just me, believing this is a good thing (a sort of placebo effect) or not, it seems to be working.

Personally, I don't agree with the use of fluoride. It may be good for teeth, but they put it in our drinking water as well. We should have the choice whether we want to ingest these things. I suppose we do, if we have money to buy filtered drinking water or installing a reverse-osmosis filter in the home. To my knowledge though, government agencies started using fluoride as yet another experiment in mind control. I know, I know stupid conspiracy theory. But seeing as it's everywhere... idk.

The real culprit with toothpaste is glycerin. Glycerin creates a hard shell around your enamel to supposedly further protect your teeth from damage, but while making the enamel harder and denser, also promotes fracturing of the teeth. And the hydroflouorowhatever they use instead of fluoride has a wide range of many harmful side effects as well.

 

I tired copy/pasting this newslink a few times but it doesn't let me. It describes how studies linking fluoride in water to health issues prompt Australian review. Hope it works this time!
http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/studies-linking-fluoride-in-water-to-health-issues-prompt-australian-review-20150225-13nr33.html

Ahh the link doesnt seem to be working again. Ok, will try copy/pasted the article itself in my next post. If you are unable to read, please google "Sydney Morning Herald studies linking fluoride in water to health issues prompt Australian review."

 

Australian health authorities are reviewing the case for fluoride in drinking water amid concerns scientific evidence supporting the benefits and risks to people's health may have shifted.
While most Australians have been regularly consuming low amounts of fluoride since it was added to drinking water in the 1960s and 1970s to prevent tooth decay, several controversial studies in recent years have suggested the mineral may be linked to lower intelligence in children and thyroid problems that can cause weight gain, fatigue and depression.
On Tuesday, the National Health and Medical Research Council revealed that a 2012 studylinking very high levels of fluoride to low IQ among some Chinese children prompted it to commission a review of the health effects of the celebrated public health intervention.
A spokesperson for the NHMRC said while the Chinese study increased concern about the safety of fluoride and potential neurotoxicity for children, it was conducted in a country with very different naturally occurring levels of fluoride that are not seen in Australia, meaning "care needs to be exercised in interpreting the results".
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Furthermore, the study published in the journal Environmental Health Perspectivesidentified drinking water with fluoride concentrations up to 11.5 mg/L in China. In Australia, the recommended level is 0.6-1.1 mg/L.
Nonetheless, the NHMRC established a fluoride reference group last year and has commissioned Sydney University researchers to assess new evidence by mid 2015. A draft statement on their findings is due by the end of the year.
Until then, the NHMRC says its 2007 review of fluoridation stands, showing it is safe and effective for preventing tooth decay and that there is insufficient evidence to support any other "measurable harm to human health".
"The only potential harm associated with water fluoridation is dental fluorosis [mottles or flecks on the teeth], and this can be minimised by the careful regulation of the concentration of fluoride in fluoridated water at levels aimed to prevent tooth decay," the spokesperson said.
On Wednesday, chief executive officer of the NHMRC Warwick Anderson suggested the review was occurring in line with its commitment to regularly update statements on health matters and was unlikely to change its position on the safety of water fluoridation.
"Based on the work already conducted in the review, NHMRC is expected to maintain its support for fluoridation of water supplies as effective and safe," Professor Anderson said in astatement.
On Tuesday, British researchers called for health authorities to reconsider its water fluoridation program after a new study linked fluoride to higher rates of hypothyroidism - low thyroid function that slows the metabolism down and can cause fatigue, weight gain and depression.
The observational study published in the Journal of Epidemiology & Community Health (a specialist journal published by the British Medical Journal group) reported that GP clinics in areas with fluoridated water were nearly twice as likely to report high rates of hypothyroidism compared with clinics in areas without water fluoridation.
While the researchers did not prove fluoride was causing the illness, they said their results should be "substantial cause for public health concern" and should prompt people to be tested for the condition.
But David Coggon, professor of Occupational and Environmental Medicine at University of Southampton, said the study was highly questionable.
"As epidemiological evidence goes, this is about as weak as it gets," he said.
"It is quite possible that the observed association is a consequence of other ways in which the areas with higher fluoride differ from the rest of the country. There are substantially more rigorous epidemiological methods by which the research team could have tested their idea," he said.
A spokesman for the Department of Health in Victoria said: "The addition of fluoride to drinking water supplies is universally supported by all leading health authorities."
In Victoria, 90 per cent of the population has access to fluoridated drinking water supplies.

 

Thanks for sharing your experience. It is more than a placebo affect as I recommended oil pulling to a few of my friends who were very skeptic, yet they experienced benefits also despite being convinced that it won't work for them.

Are you please able to leave a comment under my YouTube video as well? It will be great to have your experience available to many others who view my video. Thanks!

Also, I agree when you say it is that the choice has been taken away from us, which makes it all the more worse !

 

I did oil pulling yesterday. i am never consistent with it though. Will it make my teeth as white as Ross's??

 

Holy crap! You could get sunspots from those puppies!

I've been trying to do it every day, but usually skip out a day or two. Food... or oil pulling... nah, I'm hungry.

A while back I brushed with sea salt and warm water. I wouldn't recommend it long term, but I did notice a substantial increase in whiteness, Don't use table salt though, as table salt doesn't dissolve and therefore could do permanent damage to your enamel.

Gargling w Hydrogen Peroxide is okay every now and then as long as you don't have mercury fillings. I still have one left from... jeez about a decade ago I think. Any filling that's gray and looks like metal contains traces of mercury. Hydrogen Peroxide causes a chemical reaction which eats away at the filling and disperses small amounts of mercury from the filling. Having a few isn't bad, but more than 5 and I'd probably look into having them removed if possible.

Some people even use a tiny dash of baking soda on their toothbrush w toothpaste or whatever you use. I'd recommend only once a week though if you do, as using baking soda too much can dehydrate your gums and cause a receeding gumline. I've even heard of people taking a small bowl of baking soda with a bit of lemon juice and mashed strawberry.

 

Oil pulling has no basis in science. Your body has it's own systems for eliminating toxins, the salivary system for one. Saliva coats the oral cavity and esophagus, and food basically never directly touches the epithelial cells of those tissues.

As for Flouride, Green tea is high in fluoride, yet it's touted as healthy. (Even black tea, I've read recently) I used to drink a lot of green tea before I discovered Pu' erh. Thems the good drugs! Probably full of fluoride too.

Speaking of Ayurvedic, here's some Ayurvedic tea! Detoxifying, no doubt! {rolls eyes} Sorry, I'm a skeptic at heart. I'm sure it's some tasty tea. One of life's pleasures is a nice cup of tea.
http://www.teavana.com/the-teas/white-teas/p/white-ayurvedic-chai-tea