The Red Or Blue Pill?

Pressed_Rat · Mar 10, 2015

rambleON said:

most ppl say they want the red pill, the truth, but once shown some truth they stick their fingers back in their ears, blind their eyes and regurgitate what they have been told.

for an example of this:

the earth is indeed flat...

yah, sure you want the red pill
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Taking the red pill also requires that one use discernment because there is a lot of clever disinformation out there that causes people to want to throw the red pill back up and take the blue one.

rambleON · Mar 10, 2015

Pressed Rat said:

Taking the red pill also requires that one use discernment because there is a lot of clever disinformation out there that causes people to want to throw the red pill back up and take the blue one.
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yeah, like Tank in the Matrix

could you give an example, I agree not only discernment but a "sober" mind

and I'm serious, the earth is flat

Dude111 · Mar 11, 2015

Pressed Rat said:

There is only one choice for me since waking up to the reality of this world more than ten years ago. But, as it is often said, ignorance is bliss. I don't think I can ever be a truly happy person knowing the things I know, and my chances of ever finding someone I can truly relate to are basically shot. It's the price you pay for being a sentient individual.
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Quite an excellent reply!!!!!!!

Its good TO NOT HAVE TO TAKE THE RED PILL TO SEE THE "REAL" REALITY!!

This so called "REALITY" has been created for you to "live like they want you living" -- If you have a clear/open UNCOMPROMISED MIND,you can see thru all the BS to whats really what ........ (I am grateful to be WIDE AWAKE)

Sitka · Mar 11, 2015

Pressed Rat said:

There is only one choice for me since waking up to the reality of this world more than ten years ago. But, as it is often said, ignorance is bliss. I don't think I can ever be a truly happy person knowing the things I know, and my chances of ever finding someone I can truly relate to are basically shot. It's the price you pay for being a sentient individual. We're living for a reason, and I sure as hell know it isn't to accrue material possessions or be a debt slave from cradle to grave. Nor is it to immerse yourself in sports and mindless entertainment. Most people go their whole lives without questioning the official version of anything that's given to them, and many of them will go out of their way to belittle those whose views are different from theirs.

The movie The Matrix is basically a movie representation of this "reality" so many believe to be real but is nothing more than an artificial, man-made construct that we're born into and is all around us. The only difference is that people in real life don't even know there is a "matrix," and will laugh if you try and tell them otherwise.
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...I'm not sure what the complaint is. We have more freedom (in terms of the ability to exactly whatever the fuck we want) than any people at any point in history. What exactly is this construct that we are born into?

Accrue material possessions? It's easy. Don't buy things you don't want.

Watch sports? It's easy. Don't watch sports.

Don't be a debt slave? Easy. Don't borrow money. Or if you do, declare bankruptcy (for most of history, you'd go to debtor's prison or need to sell yourself into slavery).

If people like material possessions or like sports, meh. All the power to them. Let people figure out what makes them happy.

Moonglow181 · Mar 11, 2015

only white one as aspirin or ibuprophen when I have a bad headache

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0

thedope · Mar 11, 2015

Pressed Rat said:

There is only one choice for me since waking up to the reality of this world more than ten years ago. But, as it is often said, ignorance is bliss. I don't think I can ever be a truly happy person knowing the things I know, and my chances of ever finding someone I can truly relate to are basically shot. It's the price you pay for being a sentient individual. We're living for a reason, and I sure as hell know it isn't to accrue material possessions or be a debt slave from cradle to grave. Nor is it to immerse yourself in sports and mindless entertainment. Most people go their whole lives without questioning the official version of anything that's given to them, and many of them will go out of their way to belittle those whose views are different from theirs.

The movie The Matrix is basically a movie representation of this "reality" so many believe to be real but is nothing more than an artificial, man-made construct that we're born into and is all around us. The only difference is that people in real life don't even know there is a "matrix," and will laugh if you try and tell them otherwise.
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Matrix equals neural net. The first realization is that the neural net has plasticity. We can change our mind and thus the way we process information.

I've taken purple micro dot and a cocktail of other things including red panama. Never so stoned I can't re-member. Isolation is the price you pay for being opinionated and has nothing to do with being awake. Truth doesn't inflict pain unless you find it painful to be astounded.

So what is the reason you do live for?

Pressed_Rat · Mar 12, 2015

thedope said:

Matrix equals neural net. The first realization is that the neural net has plasticity. We can change our mind and thus the way we process information.

I've taken purple micro dot and a cocktail of other things including red panama. Never so stoned I can't re-member. Isolation is the price you pay for being opinionated and has nothing to do with being awake. Truth doesn't inflict pain unless you find it painful to be astounded.

So what is the reason you do live for?
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I live to learn... the truth.

Asmodean · Mar 12, 2015

relaxxx said:

Sad thing is that you can have 10 different people all saying they're taking the red pill...

and they still all wake up in different conflicting worlds.
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Good point. But from my pov this would only be a sad thing in an actual situation like in the Matrix where a unified stance is the only hope that could beat the machines. In reality it is beautiful that we would wake up in different worlds (which may contradict eachother but of course do not have to be in conflict with eachother at all).

Vanilla Gorilla · Mar 12, 2015

neonspectraltoast said:

I would refuse to take any pill and Lawrence Fishburn and I would be stuck in limbo for eternity.
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What if Bill Cosby had been cast as Morpheus instead?

neonspectraltoast · Mar 12, 2015

lol

Then I don't think I would be able to take either pill for fear it was a date rape drug.

And I would be stuck with Bill Cosby...man, that's a dilemma.

Koryssa_RUS · Mar 12, 2015

Red

guerillabedlam · Mar 12, 2015

Probably depends where I was in life, I would go with the Red Pill right now, probably because I am interested in exploring different aspects of reality and not really tied down. If I do settle down and my life is reliant on routine and obligations to others, I would probably go with the Blue Pill.

I feel at a certain point, it would be rather depressing to live most your life and accomplish things you set out to accomplish and then have it all come crashing down once you took the red pill.

Tyrsonswood · Mar 12, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjwWjx7Cw8I

thefutureawaits · Mar 12, 2015

Constructs created by man. Money, holidays, patriotism, cities..etc..

All bad imo

thefutureawaits · Mar 12, 2015

The truth..

Can it be found?
So many questions, so short of time we live. Our thirst for the answers should never stop. Keep searching!
Discernment is a good word to keep in mind with info I read. Human nature is what you read, is what you believe. So, finding out the source is important, who funds it?
Does the source have a habit of sensationalism? Is there evidence of thorough research?

I'minmyunderwear · Mar 12, 2015

Vanilla Gorilla said:

What if Bill Cosby had been cast as Morpheus instead?
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then it would have been either the red or blue pudding.

thefutureawaits · Mar 12, 2015

Mmmmm. Good!

hotwater · Mar 12, 2015

Vanilla Gorilla said:

What if Bill Cosby had been cast as Morpheus instead?
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Then Carrie-Anne Moss (Trinity) would have had one of those WTF moments described by dozens of Bill Cosby’s accusers ...lol...

Hotwater

Asmodean · Mar 13, 2015

Pressed Rat said:

There is only one choice for me since waking up to the reality of this world more than ten years ago. But, as it is often said, ignorance is bliss. I don't think I can ever be a truly happy person knowing the things I know, and my chances of ever finding someone I can truly relate to are basically shot. It's the price you pay for being a sentient individual. We're living for a reason, and I sure as hell know it isn't to accrue material possessions or be a debt slave from cradle to grave. Nor is it to immerse yourself in sports and mindless entertainment. Most people go their whole lives without questioning the official version of anything that's given to them, and many of them will go out of their way to belittle those whose views are different from theirs.

The movie The Matrix is basically a movie representation of this "reality" so many believe to be real but is nothing more than an artificial, man-made construct that we're born into and is all around us. The only difference is that people in real life don't even know there is a "matrix," and will laugh if you try and tell them otherwise.
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Elodin said:

Well aren't you high and mighty? Woe is me and all that shit, huh? Playing the part of the man who went looking for answers and regretted what you found? Don't give us that bullshit. You found exactly what you wanted to make yourself high and mighty by looking in the right places to get wrong information - the internet, where everything is true.

It's almost like paranoid schizophrenia, really... I do pity you. And I think you are right about that last bit - not being a slave, not hoarding materials. It is evolutionary to do so, just as perhaps it's evolutionary for us to question enough to make some of us delusional. But we can be better than that.

...right. And who made you their spokesman? Who made you their judge? How do you know what the rest of humanity goes through on a daily basis or throughout their lives? How can you even begin to say you know better, or how people should spend their time? You have no right to judge. I mean, if we spent all our time like you probably do yours, filling it with suspicion, we'd be at each others throats by now and for the rest of our lives, and that isn't a way to live either, now is it?

One of my favorite quotes from thedope is that one about how judgement against someone is judgement against the life you share with everyone; and therefore I mean it all to literally when I say LIGHTEN UP. You know, come down off the cross... we could use the wood
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Sitka said:

...I'm not sure what the complaint is. We have more freedom (in terms of the ability to exactly whatever the fuck we want) than any people at any point in history. What exactly is this construct that we are born into?

Accrue material possessions? It's easy. Don't buy things you don't want.

Watch sports? It's easy. Don't watch sports.

Don't be a debt slave? Easy. Don't borrow money. Or if you do, declare bankruptcy (for most of history, you'd go to debtor's prison or need to sell yourself into slavery).

If people like material possessions or like sports, meh. All the power to them. Let people figure out what makes them happy.
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There is knowledge, and there is wisdom. There is finding out the truth and there is handling the truth. Who sounds more wise exactly, the pragmatic person who limits their debt, material possessions and does and act in life the way it makes them happy? Or the knowledgable one who has found out the truth, hates the way other people have fun and realizes he can never be happy or find someone they truly can relate to (about the latter, this seems to be mainly because you, PR, has set himself apart from them, not because everybody else is so stupid or ignorant).

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