Who Are The Most Powerful People On The Planet?

Oh, the USA - sorry, I thought The World meant all 7.3 billion people, not just the 5% who think the world revolves around them. Bollocks to that

 

The technologists to some extent.

 

Nerd

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[SIZE=11pt]And what the fuck does that mean, and who the fuck are they anyway? So ‘they’ worship a light that they call Lucifer, is that it? [/SIZE]

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[SIZE=11pt]Many on the right attack the idea of social global governance while seemingly saying very little about economic global governance.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=11pt]They warn against global ‘governance’ ‘regulation’ or ‘laws’ without seeming to realise that these things are in place it’s just that they favour wealth and serve its interests, while often been detrimental to the majority. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=11pt]It seems to me that the political history of the 20th century (in the industrialised nations) has been to one degree or another about the curtailment of the adverse effects of 19th century exploitative capitalism (some call classical liberalism). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=11pt]People in many nations fought for voting rights, social benefits, safer working conditions, progressive taxation, and decent living wages. The result of that movement was that the economic benefits of production were much more distributed. Many people saw their wages grow and in the period between the end of WWII and 1970 many in Europe and the US gain middle class status. [/SIZE]

But from the 70’s onward a new idea was promoted in some of these nations (often referred to as neo-liberalism) it was in many ways opposed to the ‘distributive’ system that had developed. One thing it promoted was economic globalisation, which basically allowed back some aspects of exploitative capitalism by promoting the moving of production to nations that had not developed the more distributive systems away from those nations that had.

In this way the long fought for distributive system has been undermined in those places where it had developed. Neo-liberals argue that to ‘compete’ in the global market the elements of the distributive system need to be dismantled what is needed they say is deregulation, the cutting of welfare, tax cuts that benefit the rich, lower wages, weak government oversight etc etc.

[SIZE=11pt]So w[/SIZE][SIZE=11pt]hat we are getting is the dismantling of the distributive system in the developed countries while in some developing countries the conditions resemble what was happening in the west before people’s struggle to get rid of exploitation (the fire in Bangladesh that killed over a thousand factory workers comes to mind). [/SIZE]

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[SIZE=11pt]To me what neoliberal inspired right wingers seem to be aiming for is for a few to be able to exploit the many more easily across the globe. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=11pt]I think we need to fight again for social balance but this time it has to be global. To counter the economic globalisation that has already taken place we need social globalisation to be brought in, and that means social global governance to counter the already in place economic global governance. [/SIZE]

 

Nearly every country in the world is indebted to the IMF / World Bank / Bank of International Settlements.

You think the politicians run shit when they have to ask permission from these organizations to get anything done? Just as one example the US is roughly 18 trillion under. If any politician were to successfully buck the controllers, the country would immediately be plunged into a desperate state of impoverishment. The same is true of every advanced country in the world. Greece has been going through this. Their lenders are clamping down on them harrrrd. Every country in the world is in debt, and there are many countries that can't even cover the interest any more. This is ridiculous.

Problem - reaction - solution.

Debt is the problem, upheaval the reaction, one world currency / government the solution.

 

Do you understand what the IMF and World Bank do?

 

Nerd

And what the fuck does that mean, and who the fuck are they anyway? So ‘they’ worship a light that they call Lucifer, is that it?

I don’t mind answering questions if you will.

But I would recommend you look up the Bretton Wood Conference

 

Good, let's stick to direct questions so that we might make some progress.

Freemasons primarily. Lucifer, the morning star, the light. Any evil conotations the name has absorbed over the years are not subscribed to by Freemasons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2OXuXTkBNQ

Many US presidents have been Freemasons. Albert Pike was essentially the leader of Freemasonry, he wrote Morals and Dogma, the Freemason Bible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06U4O9fJZew

 

My turn. What do you think about the potential One World Government / Currency? Does Rockefeller's open admitance give you any pause or are you convinced of his benevolence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZZklPnVs-Y

Were you aware of congressman Larry McDonald's quote at 2:00?



Aaron Russo was approached by Nicholas Rockefeller to come into the fold. I have no doubt your herd mentality is so ingrained that you won't entertain any possibility of powerful people conspiring together for as much control as they can possibly attain, but think about it. Don't dismiss it immediately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oygBg6ETYIM

 

Maybe these are very good people bringing us beneficial technology to enhance our well being. If the wrong hands come to control the strings, it's unfathomably awful sure, but it will probably all be wonderful. Our kids can be chipped and if they ever get lost we know exactly where they are for example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxhB9OCeAMY

 

USA! USA! USA!

 

Nerd

Thank you - I wanted to make sure that I was right in moving this thread to the Conspiracy Forum and you have just confirmed it.

And I will now bow out and let you play with your friends because trying to have a serious discussion about politics with a conspiracy theorists is like trying to have an historical debate with people that passionately believe that Gandalf the Grey, Conon the Barbarian, and Xena: Warrior Princess are real historical figures – it can be superficially amusing but is completely pointless.

 

lol did you watch the video of the Freemason Shriner admitting to Lucifer worship or did you bury your head in the sand?

Do you have any opinion on RFID chips?

If our president were to warn us of a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy to restrict our freedoms should we listen to him, or assume he has gone insane?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz9xrdTnNE0

Straight from the horses mouth or straight from the highest office in the land, is there nothing that would cause you to question your worldview?

 

What is the most powerful electricity in the world?

No one is really addressing power.

What is described here is not of the powerful people but who benefits from convincing scams.

No one survives a cannon shot to the head.

Better question who are the suckers.

 

the greatest power rests with the shere numbers of those who have no idea, by their shere numbers, that they have it.
statistically of course. none of us really do individually.
all we can do invidually is what i'm doing, which is little more then rant about it.

there are of course those who command great wealth, and with it, political influence.
and of course palace games go on, with results that are non-trivial in the lives of everyone.

and yet it is what the masses of people believe, as a result of them, and of every other kind of influence,
that are like the irreconcilable tides of the sea.

 

What about these people? Blockupy obstructing the European Central Bank in Frankfurt, Germany.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTm-G5t7EVs

 

Wait wait wait something just struck me. The only time Jesus ever reacted violently was against the money changers in the temple, his fellow Jews. They were charging exorbitant rates to exchange currency into shekels. It seems to me Christianity and Islam are in large part a response to the generally accepted practice of extorting people of lower means and the propensity for maintaining the inequality that naturally tends to manifest.

 

Their names are known. Their organizations are known. Throughout recorded history those of a type have controlled what they could, by hook or by crook. And as usual, the 'unwashed masses' have zero say in how any of it turns out. The hard fought gains by labor over the past century are being negated by their hand picked lackeys and the only social compacts (agreements between management and labor) that created a thriving middle class are being dismantled daily. There is no hidden agenda. No conspiracy. Their methods are totally up front to see, for those who can. If anyone thinks the relentless drive by these powerful cartels to continue to use citizens as cannon fodder for the exploitation of resources around the world and OUR tax money to wallow around in, can be changed or stopped--why would they allow such? Answer: They won't.

None of our names will be in the history books of the future because our lives do not matter to the type I mentioned. We and the rest of the 7 billion live at their leisure. When the bulk of us no longer are needed--or WE GET TOO PESKY concerning their unstoppable drive for total domination--we'll be discarded like so much trash. I don't really give a shit
about them--I can't do a damn thing about the inexorable (immoral,IMO) drive they have to dominate. So, I'll worry about my kids,grand kids,friends--and frankly-most of you.
I'll be worm chow, but you folks MAY be here when the REAL SHIT hits the fabled fan.

Meanwhile: BUY MORE. BUY MORE NOW.

 

If people came together and banned Usury how much benefit would that convey?

 

To me, the most powerful people are the ones who.have the whole truth and worship the true God, not money or controlling a country.