Bernie Sanders

It would be nice to have Warren somewhere on the ticket, but I seriously doubt she'd want VP either.

I wanted to see a Warren/Sanders ticket a while back, but once Warren was a no-go I still hoped for Sanders.
Hmm... I wonder what a Sanders/Clinton ticket would feel like...
(I know, highly unlikely. But the Clinton/Sanders ticket may happen... maybe?)

 

As a few have said--even if he doesn't win or even come close-I'll add that if he's included in the usual debates on the boob tube--he will put the stupid and ridiculous candidates to shame. Not to mention, bring the $$$ disparity issues up FRONT AND CENTER, which the rich candidates will then have to defend. Sounds good to me.

 

Would anyone disagree with me saying that Bernie is our democratic equivalent to Ron Paul of 2008? I feel like he might do similar things to the democratic debates and events.

If anything he will make it much more exiting than it would be without him. I think that people need men like him so that they are more motivated to go out and vote. A DNC with everyone BUT him might just put everyone to sleep.

 

He's my first choice, but i don't think he can overcome to Clinton media machine for the democratic primary. We need a candidate that can win a general election, so that means enough middle ground for the swing voters. Bernie is pretty far left, and that may drive some to the republicans that would otherwise vote for Hilary

 

We will be hearing the label "Socialist" a lot. I just hope when people hear his policies, they won't think he's a radical Communist or whatever.

 

^^^ Right wing already does...

 

Well, as far as overcoming the Clinton machine... he did raise $1.5 million in the first 24 hours after he announced (that's more than any other candidate on either side, so far).
He also had at least 175,000 volunteers as of last night.
Which basically means, watch out Hillary!

He could easily win the general election.
While some Hillary voters may swing Red to avoid him, a lot of Independent and undecided voters would swing to Bernie.
But regardless of all that, it's the Republicans who have to fight to win this time around.
It's simply a matter of math.... the "locked in" Blue states significantly outnumber Red electoral votes before anything even starts.

 

I am not happy with the foreign money going to Clinton. Sanders, I believe, is a more trustworthy candidate.
If he makes it to the nomination, I will vote for him.
Can he beat the republican candidate?
1) the repubs will paint him as a "commie".
2) no name recognition.

Note: regardless of party affiliation, I have a hard time voting for someone over seventy.

 

As far as has been proven so far, all the money (foreign or otherwise) that has gone to the Clinton Foundation has been used in the manner the foundation has said it would be.
They have provided humanitarian aid in lots of places and of course some money has gone to operating costs and paying workers, but that's the same for any charity.
That being said, I obviously agree that Sanders is the more trustworthy candidate.
Plus he represents my interests moreso than Hillary.

Of course the Reds will paint him as a commie... they're going to do that to any Blue candidate.
I keep hearing people say "no name recognition", yet he raised $1.5 million over 24 hours by people giving an average of ~$40 a piece.
And getting 175,000 volunteers in the first couple days is nothing to sneeze at either.
Granted, Hillary's name recognition is possibly bigger than any other candidate from either side.

Gladly, Bernie is getting more exposure now that he's running.

 

What are his exact policies that make him so far away from the democrat party that he takes the independent title? For example Joe Lieberman was an independent and his Neocon policies made it distinct. Whereas I'd like to know how Sanders is different from the rest of 'em.

 

A current example is his legislation to break up the big banks.
He's against the Nike trip by Obama.
He's against the TPP (to be fair, I'm not sure if that's good or bad yet).

A recent quote from Bernie:
“What I am saying is that I get very frightened about the future of American democracy when this becomes a battle between billionaires.
I believe in one person, one vote. I believe we need a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United.”

He marched for civil rights when he was in college.
He spoke for 8 hours on the Senate floor trying to undo tax breaks for the rich.
He supports marijuana legalization (including recreational). (And several other pro-common sense stuff on that topic, along with hemp)
He's against the NSA gathering all the data they do and is generally suspicious of that type of big government over-sight/over-reach.
Last year he tried to get $50 billion for veteran's health programs.
He also encouraged the president to close tax loop-holes for the most profitable corporations... as in, act on his own (I'm not sure to what degree he meant it).

Check out his Twitter page for a good feel for him: https://twitter.com/sensanders
Lastly, here's his page on "the issues"... and it's really well worth the read!! - https://berniesanders.com/issues/

 

i saw an interview with him on u.s tv through alternet,u need this guy...he's a sane politician....rare.
http://www.alternet.org/dont-underestimate-me-after-shocking-fundraising-totals-bernie-sanders-defends-european-style

 

Thanks for that link, Inga!
Lots of good info in there.
I am loving me some Bernie Sanders!!!


The comments were interesting... lol.
(I ended up refuting someone suggesting that the Tea Party is for small government, but that's another topic...)

 

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I took a quick glimpse at his on the issues section of his page before posting in this thread. Now I've taken a closer look.
He seems like a Kuchinich type. I liked Kucinich as my favorite democrat back when he ran in the DNC primaries, but not enough to vote for him. Sanders has a cleaner slate than any establichment whore politician like Hillary or a lot of the republicans. It's also a good thing that he is an independent democrat who isn't like Joe Lieberman who I dare say has worse policies than GW Bush himself. It's great he's pro hemp/marijuana, anti-bailout, anti-NSA, and has a pretty good foreign policy. But I can't get over his fiscal policies and other leftist ideas. Because of that I can't say I think he'd make a good president, and I cannot support him fully. I'll support him enough to be my favorite democratic contender though.

 

Fair enough.
I easily can agree with that.


What is it about his fiscal and other ideas you don't like?
I'm curious if there may be something I should know, but don't.
(I just learned he seems to lean heavy for Israel, but I need more info before forming an opinion on that.)

 

Another thing alot of people don't know about him is he has a record of being pro gun.

His voting record reflects a gun enthusiast kind of. Which I agree with. I feel as though everyone should have one, but that is probably ONLY this guy.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-exception-bernie-sanders-liberalism

 

balls....i'd never do that, i don't know what your agenda is....but it's pathetic that you'd resort to that....i can only imagine it's "SATIRE', hey good for you (in this case)

 

See here: https://berniesanders.com/issues/

The Democratic Party won't have a Democrat take on the billionaires because the party is dependent upon and beholden to them. That's why their candidates (e.g. Oh-blah-blah, Hilliarly) always talk about issues that are important to the rest of us but rarely introduce legislation that might effectively address those issues -- but Bernie has a long history of introducing just that kind of legislation. He might caucus with the Democrats, but he doesn't toe the party line.

Edited to add: Holy shit! I spent a little while with this browser window open as I did other things, and quite a number of folks beat me to it. I guess that's why I like this forum so much.