Mass Shooting In Charleston

Why the heck was there so much resistance to the back-to-Africa movements?

 

Perhaps it depends. Resistance from who?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlLL2Z5I3wo

 

Our efforts in Liberia (starting in 1822) failed to make a significant impact on the US black population. I suspect that cost and logistics were the primary obstacles.

Of course, cotton plantations still wanted and needed free labor, in order to compete in the European markets.

 

I wonder if those back-to-Africa contenders knew the truth about Africa.

Google confirms race is just a social construct.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-photos-labeled-pics-of-african-americans-as-gorillas/

 

Hip Forums confirms that you're a white ******.

 

Fight the power!

 

So long Dukes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHO1PprfmkY&feature=youtu.be

 

So they make Boss Hogg look like Kingfish and that's a PC improvement?

Holy Mackrel Saphire!

 

Honestly, the series was funny, but it would make Robert E. Lee turn over in his grave so fast that somebody could hook up a generator and make electricity.

 

SC's bill to take down the flag in Columbia has cleared the Senate. House vote may come as early as tomorrow. The governor will surely sign it, if passed. The House vote may be close, with all the opposition coming from the governor's own party. A 2/3 majority vote is required.

 

Yesterday, the Confederate Army battle flag was still flying at the SC State House in Columbia.



National network news people were everywhere.





Scattered protesters, supporting both sides. Note the prayer circle in the grass.



Everyone on both sides was peaceful and polite.



... but there was a heavy police presence. Lawmakers on both sides of the issue had received threats of violence.



Here, a hardcore right wing nut case protest vehicle is about to get towed away under police orders.

 

Columbia, SC state house - Senate chamber, where the Confederate flag removal bill had passed earlier in the week with only 3 votes against



Clementa C. Pinckney's desk and voting station, draped in black.



I think a lot of people are overlooking the fact that because of his office and political views, this murder fits the classic definition of a political assassination.

Final debate in the House chamber last night:



The vote came after midnight, long after I was gone. Final total: 94-20 in favor of removal (2/3 majority vote needed).

I sat diagonally behind Ron Mott of NBC News and Joy Reid of MSNBC (not visible in the pic). I didn't recognize them at first.

If Nikki Haley signs the bill today as expected, the flag will be down in time to prevent the KKK from holding on Saturday what would have looked very much like an assassination victory celebration around the flag.

The memorial itself will remain, with this inscription:

 

my friend's band played the unity festival last weekend at the statehouse. Sadly the KKK demonstration next weekend will get more media attention. And its not even a SC KKK chapter.

 

oh yeah, also: Yay for the flag being removed. I love my Carolina sometimes!

 

4:00 signing ceremony today, flag removal 10:00 tomorrow. In a way, it's like we're just now finally closing the books on the Civil War, 155 years after it started. After tomorrow, it's highly unlikely that a Confederate flag will ever again fly at an important government facility.

It seems that the emotional speech given by Jenny Horne was the final nail in the coffin of the old Stars and Bars. Being the legislature's only living descendant of Jefferson Davis, once she spoke strongly in favor of removal, it got much harder for anyone to oppose it.

By the way, you guys have a beautiful capitol building! When my business meeting ended early yesterday afternoon and I was only 1:20 away in Charlotte, I couldn't resist the temptation to make the short drive and see history in the making. All the people I met in Columbia were super nice and friendly. :cheers2:

 

I haven't seem the capitol building since an 8th grade field trip lol. That's awesome you drove down yesterday. So all the photos you posted are your own?

Columbia isn't such a bad place. Some of my friends stayed after graduating from USC and it seems like this generation is doing a lot towards making it more of an artsy, progressive city. And of course it has the college town vibe.

hot as hell though and not enough trees

 

Yeah, my car said it was 102 outside. But... the capitol tour is still free, and they have air conditioning! Yay!

My husband is retired, so he rode down with me and took most of the pics, while I focused on talking to people and getting a feel for what people were thinking. That's more my thing.

A lot of downtown is just a typical, progressive American city that could be almost anywhere. My waitress at dinner had a Pennsylvania accent, and the family at the next table was definitely not originally from the US.

I'll have to go back again in the fall, when it's cooler.

 

Glad to see there was a big majority in favour of removing the flag. To me it seems like a step in the right direction.

The wording on the monument seems fitting, and it's enough.

 

Glad to see that issue resolved finally. I also find the monument unoffensive and appropriate. These are thing you will find all over ths South and this one was carefully worded to honor the fallen dead of a lost cause without trying to preserve the values of that cause.

I hope this blows over before everyone tries to get rid of all these historic monuments in the South. For one thing, New Orleans has a couple that are just part of the character of that city, namely Lee Circle for one.

http://www.hipforums.com/forum/topic/468216-mass-shooting-in-charleston/?p=7761375

 

This is a great distraction from US giving away so much sovereignty via the TPP.