Republican Clown Car

The Jeb says medicare should be ended. That sob and the rest of his family can afford any kind of care available anywhere. None of them has ever worked a day in their lives. Platinum spoon boys. The repubs just slobber and almost have orgasms when they anticipate getting their grubby mitts on social security so that the wall street fuckers can steal it. (and give plenty back to them for for their elections.) They even refer to it as an "entitlement." Anything that helps the monied class is top priority with them. They have no shame and are immoral to the core,IMO. And to eliminate a program that works and that many DEPEND on is business as usual.

And this Obama care is lousy also. I suppose it helps some, but single payer is the way to go, eliminating insurance companies from being middle men and making medical decisions.

SANDERS/WARREN.

 

^ a little off topic, but I believe healthcare in this country is headed in a strange direction if anyone has been paying attention to all the healthcare mergers lately.

I read about Jeb Bush wanting to cut Medicare and introducing medical vouchers instead. Seems like a ridiculous idea to me, and without Medicare there really wont be any system in place to control healthcare costs.

also, one thing I dont understand is why Donald Trump supporters think its so important to have a business man in office. Having someone who can cut unnecessary spending and balance a budget is one thing, but government was never meant to be ran like a business.

 

Don't you think that it should somewhat be run like a business. You are running a country, balancing budgets, passing rules (laws) deciding on rules (laws) looking out for your countrymen, Protecting your fellow countrymen. So yes it should be run like a business BUT I think the term business is a little broad, you don't send your employees at McDonalds to war with Bk and Arbys because they have more oil in their friers

Also there seems to be a lot of Rep candidate bashing, Obama has not done a good job at all if anything he ruined the morals and ethics of the country by arrogantly doing as he pleases and disregarding the laws of the land.

Both Dems and Rep are the same. Idealist until they get in office then they go the way of the buck. It is all about business so why not run the country as one. No matter who gets in it will always remain status quo. The only pres that could have changed the entire Country was killed in 1963 and the other candidate in 1968

Ross Perot in 2016

And Hillary, really Wow

Edit: i was only referring to your last line not your whole post

 

I don't think the country should be run like a business, but I do think it helps to have business sense at times.
They're way too many differences in goals and priorities to use a direct translation.

As for the Obama ruining morals, ethics and disregarding the laws of the land... nope.
It's way too complex and lengthy to get into here... it would be a total derail,
But, he did none of that... nor are Dems and Reps the same.
Again, too much to get into here.



Also... I almost first registered to vote in time to vote for Perot.
When he pulled out of the race, I pulled out of caring.
(It wasn't until 2008 that I finally ended up registering.)

 

Oh yeah... and Jeb Bush is an ass.
Actually, probably more like an asshole.

If you're not paying attention to what he's saying, he seems reasonable and almost likable.
But once you hear what he's saying, it's just so out of touch it could revive the old show, "That's Incredible!"

 

Obama ruined morals and ethics? This joint was ruined waaaaay before he got in. I'd say the aforementioned events of '63 and '68 carried out by the right wing goons was more instructive of ruination. Wouldn't you?

 

And of course that great right wing savior, Reagan ---the governor that closed up the places where the mentally ill could get some relief

certainly showed a lack of morality. They were ALL over the streets in Cal,without any help whatsoever. Irony of ironies--he lost his own mind.

Kinda' makes a person believe in Karma, in his case.

 

Trump's lead over Bush is now by a 2:1 margin! You could say that one clown has taken over the car and driven away, leaving the others standing around wondering what happened. Or you could compare to Frankenstein's monster. The media created the Trump monster, mainly NBC, and it has now escaped from the laboratory, leaving a path of destruction.

This is what you get when a mass of poorly educated voters gets addicted to mean-spirited entertainment. They're turning the GOP into the WWF. They're voting for maximum drama, regardless of quality of character or ideas. This is a very dangerous trend. This is sound byte democracy, carried ever closer to its ultimate extreme.

 

I do have to admit that Trumps recent criticism of Scott Walker (at least the part I read) was pretty spot-on. Walker is a train wreck.

 

people are fucking idiots. I can't believe people are taking Donald Trump seriously. American politics are nothing more than tabloid fodder these days and its really turning me into an elitist. I have nothing against requiring IQ and political knowledge tests in order to earn the right to vote.

although polls dont really mean shit because in truth when it comes time for the election most of the people supporting Donald Trump wont be able to peel their lazy stupid asses away from The Apprentice reruns long enough to go cast an actual vote.

sorry, its all very irritating to me. I seriously need to move out of this country already.

 

I wouldn't feel quite so disenchanted, Meliai.
Sure, the Republican candidates are a hot mess and are trying to... forgive the saying, but it's fitting here... trying to trump each other.
Trump is squawking about drug-running rapists flooding the border.
Huckabee is yelling about Obama sending the Israelis to the oven door.
Ben Carson thinks health care is as bad as, and equal to, slavery.

They're all insane!


BUT... on the Democratic side, we have 5 candidates who all respect each other and act like it.
They aren't screaming hyperbole or fearmongering.
The Dems are explaining what is wrong and how they would fix it.
And they do that using something amazing... facts and actual policies!

So, sure... lament that the Repubs are making a farce of the election and our country.
But don't throw out the Dems in the process, we actually have our heads screwed on pretty well.

 

Trust me, this feeling is going to get stronger as you get older. Before long, you'll reach the point where you've already forgotten more important facts than most Americans will ever learn. I'm already there. Not because you and I are geniuses, but because most people don't try at all. It doesn't require devoting all your free time to being a geek or nerd, but it does require you to think there is more to life than posting selfies and cute cat pics on Facebook.

I've been thinking a lot about this ever since my road trip to Columbia. I thought the line for that House gallery would stretch halfway around the block, but the seats were half empty! I couldn't believe it. The gallery wasn't very big, and the debate was one of the most important in recent SC history.

As a business person, I've never been able to sit through the regular Apprentice. Trump's approach is the opposite of what it needs to be; that of cultivating and encouraging employees, motivating them to be the best they can be, not taking delight in giving them the boot. Celebrity Apprentice was worse in some ways, giving hell to people raising money for charity. I'll never forget the time he gave Brett Michaels hell for coming back to the show, after already winning it once. When questioned about his motives, Michaels (who I don't particularly like as an individual or a musician) simply explained that he was still raising money for diabetes, which hasn't been cured yet, so more research money is needed. The job will be done when there is a cure for the disease. Trump had a very negative response. I wanted to punch him in the face. How can any reasonable person be against someone working his ass off to raise money for an important charitable cause? Fucking asshole. I never watched the show again. I can't forgive that.

Everybody needs to vent sometimes about politics, and I'll probably vent online a few more times before the election.

Can anybody trump Trump?

That's why the thread title isn't Democratic Clown Car. Every day, it looks more like the party of mature adults.

[edit: typo]

 

Joe Pyne and Morton Downy started the outrageous talk show bullshit years and years ago. Limbaugh, Hannity, Weiner, lars Larson, et-al have

made nastiness, lying and tearing down people with whom they disagree, down to the max as their method of operation. They have more than helped this country---nay--even MADE

this country the nasty political place it has become. 365/24/7, republicans have inched it up over the years and the result in social

interaction, mainly political has given us what we see today. One upping each other with outlandish bullshit and expecting--AND GETTING

the same type of attention that reasonable politicians used to get. So hang on---the nasty, uncivilized clown car is heading your way!!

Sanders/Warren.

 

A caller called limbaugh back in the late 90s and mentioned that the Clintons did not have a dog. I heard Limbaugh with my very own ear-flaps say- "Oh, but they have Chelsea." Just an example of who Republicans worship.

 

I was going to ask, a bit facetiously, isn't the electorate smarter than that.

But I fear we have the answer here.

 

How weird... I just recently mentioned Morton Downey Jr... somewhere...
I think it was a comment on an article over at FreakOutNation... or maybe Liberaland.

Anyway... just sayin... how weird that after nobody talking about the guy in forever, he would come up in two different sites/conversations.

 

I live in LA. Trust me, he won over quite a large chunk of the Latino vote. Who do you think makes up the majority of victims of crimes committed by illegals? Latinos, thats who. Obama turned off a lot of Cubans too. They're not all too happy he's cozying up to a brutal dictatorship. My wife's family included.

I don't think Trump's here to win it. Like Ross Perot and Ralph Nader he's in the running to make sure important issues get the attention they deserve. He won't get traction on all those issues but they'll be discussed. He doesn't act like a politician, he acts more like Obama with his mini temper tantrums when he doesn't get his way, but I honestly don't think he'll see it through to the end.

I also think Dems are making a mistake mocking the large pool of Repub candidates. For starters, this is how primaries work. Same story every four years but somehow they're all acting like this is new. Second, what it means is Repubs have a wide range of choices to decide who best represents their conservative beliefs. Dems on the other hand basically have Clinton or Sanders. A woman neck deep in scandal since she fled an indictment for obstruction of justice in the Nixon investigation all the way up to Whitewater, Benghazi, and her private email server, not to mentions she's doing horrible in the polls. The other option is an avowed Socialist who has advocated eliminating private ownership of property. Dems need more candidates because even if they win, they're unlikely to get a candidate who truly represents their beliefs.

 

The reason why people are acting like the stable of Republican primary candidates is something new is because... it is!
There has been no time in recent history (recent, as in several decades, at least) that there has been such a large amount of primary candidates.
(I just saw a historian talking about this and she couldn't remember the last time this had happened.)

And what are you talking about with Sanders advocating for elimination of private property?
A link to something that quotes him or something would help a lot, because that doesn't sound right.

I can tell you that any Democrat candidate who gets the nomination will certainly more closely represent me than any of the Republican candidates could ever come anywhere close to.
Whether it's Hillary, Bernie, Martin O'Malley or Joe Biden... I won't have to think twice about voting Dem over Republican.

 

The first Republican debate of the primary season is Thursday night at 9:00 Eastern time! This is appointment television! High entertainment value!

Now all I have to do is figure out how to find Fox News on the local cable system. It's been a while.

GOP candidates not making the top 10 in recent polls will debate at 5:00. Maybe somebody will care.

 

So, 5pm for the clown sidecar?
Sounds like a good time... well, for comedy anyway.

The saddest part is that it'll be too late for Jon Stewart to comment on any of it for his final show.

But, I'll definitely be watching as much as I can... of both the debates!
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