How Do People Find Religion

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Sleeping Caterpillar, Aug 10, 2015.

  1. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    But as institutional religious beliefs are by nature unprovable (at least the unprovable ones) they are merely opinions, so how can any of them be conclusively determined to be right?
     
  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I just have different experiences with relgious folks I guess. I have come across similar situations and people you described in your example too, but those were exceptions in my case. The people who are mainly or only reciting word for word what their preacher told them or what they memorized literally from the bible are indeed a drag to discuss these matters with indeed. In this case it all depends who started the 'discussion' :p in who's the annoying person with evangelistic tendencies (yeps it seems atheists assume the roll of preacher just as much) ;)
     
  3. Asmodean

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    :sifone:

    If it appears to be subjective or unprobable maybe the institutions and those with opposite beliefs should just accept that such things are not certain and (try to) get along.
     
  4. quark

    quark Parts Unknown

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    Why would that surprise you? Ironically, the point of my post was to shine light on the fact that there are tons of things that non-believers/believers can both do, whereas acts such as enforcing sharia law, preemptive genocide of the Amalekites, and the pompous efforts put forth in insisting that the Earth is flat, in the center of the universe, and 6000 years old are unique acts/claims found in religion.

    One could raise the point that xenophobic governments have committed equally atrocious acts, however, not one of those leaders will ever claim to have done so in order to reach a higher level of spirituality (or any equally "woo" nonsense), to live forever in a far-off paradise, or to fulfill the wishes of someone/something more powerful than themselves. Once again, those are delusions uniquely found in religion. (on a side note, totalitarianism as a whole is a terrible thing. Religion just happens to be the mother load of totalitarian worship)
     
  5. Asmodean

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    They often seriously think they are better people. That while this annoying evangelistical blattering is generally one of the key issues they have with religious folks. So I at first expected a bit better from them. But in my experience they are at least as annoying and even oppressive as religious people (it only takes the conviction that you are right and the other's perception should perish :p).

    People that claim non religious societies and people are better by default do so of course simply because they dislike religion and/or religious people a little more (same coin, but other side). But we are all human in the first place. All capable of the most atrocious things. As history can show you it does not make a difference if one is religious or not. Tolerance, acceptance and understanding appear to be much more constructive and progressive.
     
  6. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    No institution for my beliefs. They come straight from the heart. :)
     
  7. Aerianne

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    I find it to be boring and monotonous.
     
  8. AiryFox

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    Religion is sadly perpetuated through indoctrination.
     
  9. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    What's wrong with people finding religion though? Say they pick up a pamphlet at a pub or something, or the mail box. They read and their interpretation is positive. They now find peace and God. Why is this so foreign and worrisome to a lot of people? Why is some randoms life affecting yours?

    When you ask yourself these types of questions, it's not the religious folk that start looking bad.. It's the atheist and the denier.

    Personally, if religion is a positive step in someone's life then good on them, best of luck. :)
    It doesn't affect me one bit.
     
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  10. AiryFox

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    Religion always has the tendency to corrupt, for the mere reason that it enters one's head that he is right in what he has read while everyone else is wrong.

    There is nothing wrong with one finding religion and remaining humble about being spiritual with no notions of influencing society through his religious beliefs.

    The problem has always been, and always will be, religion in general because fundamentalists do not separate their beliefs from what other Christians adhere to in relation to politics.
     
  11. Irminsul

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    I don't know. Political agendas aside, I think if someone finds religion later on in life, it's not to corrupt any system, it's probably nothing more than a fear of.. our expiration date possibly? I mean a lot of people especially older people, they take a chance on faith toward the end of their life. I believe the afterlife is just a comforting factor to them.

    I really don't see religion being all this.. Political mumbo jumbo to the masses of devoted followers and worshippers.
     
  12. AiryFox

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    Then you are the perpetuation of the problem and not the solution to fixing it.
     
  13. Irminsul

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    :D

    Never read so much bullshit in my life.
     
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  14. AiryFox

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    I am certain you have and you are merely feigning humor for another "you posted bullshit" response.
     
  15. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I honestly just think if people channeled as much energy into their own lives instead of criticising everyone else's, then there'd be a lot more positivity.

    But all you express to me with what you said is nothing but sadness. =[

    It's sad.
     
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  16. AiryFox

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    What you view as sadness, I view as reality. What makes you sad is merely your inability to deal with truth.
     
  17. Irminsul

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    Oh it's not an emotion of sadness in the sense you're thinking of. More like, I feel sad for you? Or sorry. Like I said, I just don't see how this is so drastically life changing to people. nor do I see how I'm a part of the problem considering I don't practice nor believe in any of the religious doctrines discussed.

    One of the more beautiful aspects of paganism is... there really are no wrongs. :)
     
  18. AiryFox

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    Oh, there's the difference right there.

    Paganism is a world unto itself, and I honestly find no fault with it for it tends to be more spiritual in nature than fundamentalist as the Judeo-Christian religions are.

    To be honest, I am a spiritual pagan while also being quite the militant anti-theist in relation to the Judeo-Christian religions.
     
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  19. Irminsul

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    If I could somehow just make make you not care, and let you know that, hey, it's okay to just live YOUR life.. if I could do that for one person I think I'd be happy. That's all I'm getting at. Don't let what other people believe affect your life. They have no bearing on your life, you don't even know they exist so don't let their beliefs have a bearing either. -shrug-

    "It's a shame you won't live, but then again, who does?"

    That right there makes enough sense to just stop caring about what anyone else believes tbh.
     
  20. Irminsul

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    I don't like Christianity either. I loathe it. I may even speak against it, or the followers in angst. Just at the end of the day, I don't believe the people are that bad or anything. Different life agendas etc. we'd all be boring if we were all the same and believed in the same thing. :d that's why culture is so important to me.
     
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