How Do People Find Religion

That is kind of the problem, because they do.

Have you been following the struggles of humanity? Blacks gaining their rights was a struggle against religious belief, and so was the right for same-sex couples to marry. If we simply adhere to "live and let live" by everything in this world, the Christians would always win because no one would have the nerve to fight them.


Christianity has done more harm than good, which is evident throughout history, and I honestly cannot understand how allowing the Christian religion more passes to do more harm in any way helps us.

 

Well I can't fathom a scenario where the Christian en mass unite for another crusade any time soon. I think you're safe.
Me on the other hand, well... I might just come and say hello by means of ax through the door and forced entry. Just to say hi. Gimme your booze, your money and your woman. :d

 

I don't have a woman, for I am gay, but thank you for sharing your Norse-ness, I think......

 

It only took a few hours after my reply about atheists feeling just as right as an evangelistic theist to get one in here and proof it

The problem is the intolerance for each other and the lack of respect. Usually coming from a lack of understanding. You are actually one of many (both theists and atheists) perpetuating the problem. You're really not fixing anything or working towards any solution by agitating against theists like you do on here. Carry on though

Can't wait when you come to realize how pointless and unconstructive your agitating efforts have been :-D (since you're not completely stupid I reckon you wll realize some time)

 

I find it to be the last bastion for the institutionalization of mental illness.

Religion! Poetry divorced you at your wedding! You've never had long to live! - You have always been a sick, hobbling thing. It was not your fault! There are parts of you that want more, want better, and it is for the human hope in you that you will pass! Do not fear death. -You were never alive!

 

In all fairness, their argument was equally as poor as yours.

 

If the bible is written by human minds, and any interpretation a human mind gives it is as valid as another, then in what sense is the bible a "holy" book? In what sense can we use it to structure our lives? In what sense can we "believe" it?

Do you think that maybe if it's really easy to find BS and contradictions in a religion, it's because that religion contains BS and contradictions? And maybe turning the attention onto the person who is pointing them out is really a kind of defensive move on your part to take attention away from the fact that believing in religions that are full of BS might actually be a problem?

And what about the other side of the coin, when someone finds religion and it's not positive? It's not peaceful? It does affect you?

It's easy to frame a question in such a way that the answer benefits your position. It's harder to be more honest and ask the hard question; "What if I'm wrong? What haven't I considered?"

How do you feel about the westerners going to join ISIS? No blood on religion's hands?

Dementia is a sad reality for older people, especially today when we have artificially extended the physical life of our bodies by several decades without figuring out how to allow our minds to process that continuation.

An old man living in a vacuum and "finding religion" does not sound like a situation where politics are involved, no. But that is only because of how you framed the question, again.



What about the Vatican? A religious institution valued at over 8 billion USD. Does that maybe ring a bell of "politics" for you?

She said, while criticizing his life . . .

You espouse a path of ignorance through this world which is an affront to millenia of critical thinking and open mindedness. I don't go out of my way to let what other people believe affect my life, that's what you're not understanding; the beliefs of the world structure the world. I was born into an ocean of beliefs which guide the workings of all of mankind.

If you spent 1 minute thinking about your position you would see you are flat wrong and picking a fight with a strawman. Please, you and Asmo, please, stop playing the "poor little religious person" card. It simply isn't in the works for you.

You've been really enjoying wailing on "atheists" as a group lately. It's interesting to see you take up the very position you are arguing against.

What you call "agitating" is called "conversation" by those who value knowledge. If religious people are "agitated" over our conversations, maybe those people hold certain beliefs which are not compatible with knowledge and reality.

It's interesting to me that you value "keeping the peace" more than having a real conversation, where we learn real things about our beliefs. I don't care for one second if I agitate someone with my words; that is their issue, not mine. Truth can be mentally violent to accept. If you want to go through your life avoiding all agitations, you can simply continue to hold unjustifiable beliefs. But you should know that there are people, like me, for whom that position is simply not good enough. I have one life to live, as far as I can see, and I'm not going to waste it being afraid of asking hard questions.

 

By seeking and searching sincerely for what is truth. Narrow is the road leading to life, but broad and spacious is the path leading to destruction.

 

Not gonna read any of that, just sayin'. Said my part, you got problems with it, your burdens.

 

Nothing I post is pointless or nonconstructive.

 

Genius!

 

If you say so. I guess people need to vent sometimes It is mainly anger/dislike and it's getting mighty repetitive.

 

There is actually a line between conversation because we are interested in someones beliefs or because we challenge someone elses viewpoint or consistently putting them down for believing in something irrational as a God. The latter of course is what I am criticizing and reacting to. I don't have any problem with a good conversation. But 99% of the time it will end (and often already starts with) in pitiful convictions about the believer and they in return will get pissed of (can't blame anyone for getting pissed of when people share their sincere beliefs because they are asked to in the thread title but then the thread has to end in a stupid vs and anti discussion again. It should be so easy to leave that behind.
You see incompability with reality but they don't. Deal with it. No, I am not talking about people who infringe on other people's rights and happiness (obviously not restricted to theists). I am talking about the people you talk with here. Accept that there's a difference and that even religious people that believe in an organized religion are individuals. You don't have to like what they believe at all. Just deal with the existence of people with completely different mindsets than you. Most are not that dangerous :-D It may just seem like that to you because you don't understand such religious people. After all when you criticize or analyze them it seems mainly about people that were either traditionally 'indoctrinated' as a kid and never or rarely questioned those beliefs or about people with such an empty hole in their hearts that they crawl (back) in a religious corner for comfort reasons
If you think I have a problem especially with atheists you are wrong. Anyone who puts down another person's beliefs simply because they found out it is worthless for themselves and lack tolerance and understanding, or because other people in the world are a bad example of it, practice dubious behaviour. People should target their dislike appropriately. And of course be aware that stereotypes do not have to apply on your discussion partner just because they're part of this or that. All in all it maybe looks like atheists by definition are agitated against by me on here but that's only because atheists on here chronically give me reason to Action reaction baby!

edit: spelling

 

Rock and roll music is my religion.
I don't need no miracle vision
I don't need no indecision
I look it right in the eye
Rock and roll music is gonna set you free
Sure to knock you right outta your tree
Gonna get you right where you wanna be
Do it to the day that I die

unk:

 

And to me unholy chaos-worshipping black metal is one of the purest forms of rock n roll

 

To me rock n' roll is a dead duck.

 

Now that's blasphemy.

 

One man's blasphemy is another's critique of contemporary arts.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3L4jBp-4ew

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kSvN1dQjxc