Black Lives Matter (?) Protesters Shut Down Sanders In Seattle

Bernie should have taken the mic back and continued his speech.

 

My bad, I thought you were talking about the one in Ferguson.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paHYn-8Pw7E&feature=youtu.be

 

He has more class then that. You can not argue with an idiot because they will drag you to their level and beat you with experience. I can not deny that it is hard for black people at times in America and cops needs to change how they treat them. I know as a white person I have not had to deal with some of the things black people have. But some black people need to be the victim. So much so that even when a man who organized sit ins and supported Martin Luther King in his day needs to be the enemy because he is white. MLK would have been happy to have anyone of any color support him. I think he would have been disappointed with how those women acted. He was man who understood that you have to present yourself as respectful and well spoken to win the hearts and minds of people. He wanted true equality between people. But people like these women seem to respect Malcom X more a man who wanted to destroy white people.

Black people like those women don't understand that they are being racist themselves. They will say they can not be racist because they are black and white people have all the power. To be a racist requires you to have control to be "the man" so to speak. I have actuly heard black people make this argument and it is ridiculous. Racism is assuming a person is less then you or somehow bad because of the color of their skin. It does not require you to have any control over that persons life.

I think Bernie understood he could not win in that situation. It's not like he lost the support of most of his supporters and I personally don't think less of him for doing what he did. If he stands up to those women it only proves their point. "The white man would not let me speak".

 

Bernie just needs to get some security. It's kind of concerning that people can just walk up to him like that.

To Orison: I doubt Trump would have fought to get the mic back like he says. He just has to say something bad about all his opponents although he is entertaining.

 

The guy in my story was an ex-police chief in plain clothes! I was in total disbelief when the dispatcher filled me in on this information. I agree that compliance is a necessity. Your story is proof that even though they can waste your time, if you haven't done anything wrong they will find it difficult to charge you with anything.

 

Jeb Bush got the same treatment last night, so they're no longer singling out just Bernie.

 

It's also the best way to promote a police state. Don't complain when you police abuse their authority, just meekly comply with the brown-shirts. That way you won't get shot - today.

Good plan.

 

I'm not so sure that the police are really the problem ...

 

Oh you are right about that. They are just the outward manifestation of a corrupt nation, one that is plunging down the path toward Totalitarianism.

 

yeah sure it is rat..

 

Complaining about police abuse is a good thing, as long as they don't have a gun pointed at your head at the time. Complaining about abuse is much different than complying with authority. Law and order is necessary in a civilized society. Yeah I know, anarchists disagree.

 

I've actually gone to make a complaint at my local government center and had police step in and intervene with the whole process. You may not know about how to formally complain against the police so I will tell you. You can try reporting them to the officer in charge at their department, but there's no guarantee that anything will stick. To truly have something done about it you have to put it down on one of those blue forms they have down at the government center (they may be some other color where you are).

Well I went down there to file a formal complaint and had officers essentially remove me from that office and tell me to comply or else. Ridiculous. Sometimes they really are out of line.

 

I don't think this incident hurts Bernie at all. He seems to have used it as a positive thing for his campaign. I thought those ladies were rude and counter-productive to their cause.

It kind of like when black people were making a point of interrupting "white peoples brunch" by storming diners and standing over people for 4 1/2 minutes. While I absolutely support equality....this kind of thing would not do anything but annoy people. And I see it as racist because they are making assumptions and judgement's about people based solely on their race. They are assuming that just because someone is white and having a meal....they must be part of the problem. If that isn't the case, then what's the point of even doing that shit? If I owned the diner, I'd tell them they are welcome to sit down and order a meal but otherwise they have to leave.....and that would go for anyone of any race. Rudeness....whether in a diner or at a political event...probably isn't the most effective way to draw support to your cause.

 

Black lives don't matter to the blacks shooting other blacks in the hood.

 

Pretty much. To the whole hashtag movement they've started, Black lives only matter when a cop or a white guy kills them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttcLqjfB4OY

 

Is it really a growing cycle?

People have been getting shot for a long time now.

Seems to me that the main difference now is that every time a black person gets shot by a white, it's assumed to be unjustified, motivated by racism, and it makes the national news and inspires mass protests.

 

I have also been told that I don't know anything about racism because I'm white so I couldn't possibly understand. However, if someone were white and actually a racist...wouldn't they at least understand it from their perspective? Another thing....I'm a white male in a very predominantly white state. If we're talking about perspectives, I would be in the position most likely to hear what white people think...unfiltered..."behind closed doors". Is that perspective not at least enough to grant me an opinion on the subject?

(For the record, I do occasionally hear racist comments but not very often and not nearly as much as some people might believe. I'm friends with all kinds of people and the vast majority of the people I know...at least the ones I've talked to about it.....see these police videos online and get pissed because it's more than clear that the person got beat down for no other reason except for their skin color and we know, for a fact, that shit wouldn't happen to us in our neighborhood. So the idea that being rude to us to convince us to support your cause is silly because we already support it and to think we don't...just because we're white....well...what the fuck?)

 

Is that based on an impression though, or hard data?

An increase in the fear of event x doesn't necessarily coincide with an actual increase of the risk of event x

 

This past weekend in D.C., the police were out in full force with an "all hands on deck" order from the police chief, who is about get a "no confidence" vote. There was six shootings in spite of double police presents.

 

Christmas starts earlier every year.

 

What I've heard leads me to the opposite conclusion.

Black on black homicides have spiked in Chicago this summer. One of the reasons, according to two police chiefs interviewed, was that police were much more reluctant to engage with black suspects, since if it lead to a police shooting, the cops would be called racist or there would be mass protests.