Police Chief Compares Blacks To Monkeys

I'll put it nicely, discussions of race and racism and unfair treatment -- selective treatment of blacks -- is the WORST discussion to have with you, and the opposite side because the opp. side doesn't know their history, and simply point to current evidence of poor blacks portrayed in poverty and fail to understand what got them there, and how natural cycles of poverty are,

plus the opp. side just can't imagine or doesn't want to imagine unfair treatment. [they] Say ridiculous things like ''slavery was over in 1890" which is so offensive and illiterate in knowledge I don't bother to form a smart, meticulous argument.

You're just completely wrong on this if you don't first sympathize with blacks when it comes to this.

 

Uhmmm, OK, but just who are you addressing because your post barely makes sense within the context of the other posts in this thread.

 

What has sympathy accomplished so far? Who ever won their kingdom by seeking sympathy? Such an event would not exist in nature.

 

I think he meant empathize.


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Perhaps so. As for empathy, I have a hard time with that. Ask anyone. I have tried to empathize with blacks in the US who rail on and on about slavery, after all, I likely have family who were enslaved by Moors long before the New World was discovered. But it's impossible. I can't derive one aspect of my life that emulates the experience of slavery. And that makes me wonder how so many in the US say they can. So if the "legacy of slavery" is to be accepted as a plausible excuse for not thriving, then certainly a more contemporary example can be saddled upon me as well, that of Jim Crow.

Nevermind that I was a baby during that time when those laws were finally wiped from the slate on a national level. I'm old, and a honkey/cracker, so surely I was in Birmingham holding a fire hose or Memphis holding a noose. It's like math skills are the first casualty of hate. And hate can most certainly flow in any direction. I don't prefer to empathize with hatred. I feel like hate should be personal, not national. I personally hate not being able to get the chicken sandwich I want on Sunday because the company can't cut the cord with saint Sanders. I hate long lines at the liquor store. And I hate 3 of my neighbors, personally, for being total assholes about every little thing. And we don't have a HOA, just nosy rednecks.

What's funny is that people in the south think I'm a "yankee" and people in the north are convinced I'm a confederate flag waving rebel. I'm from Marin county California, where nobody cares what you are as long as you're not an asshole.

Back to the topic. The oinker screwed the pooch live, time to tender, render and skeedaddle. A case review will surely prove he didn't belong there. I suggest Lake County Florida or much of southern Indiana. As for the people who got all butt hurt about this, try to see that the occasional asshole like this is not an indication of the norm. It's the press keeping their jobs by presenting the abnormal as front and center. I know a lot of white people and most of them wouldn't dream of carrying on like this loser "lawman".

But you get more clicks by showing the odd as common I guess. I miss the 70s. Race wasn't so front and center in our lives back then. And Disco saved my teen aged sex life. I still have my Funkadelic, Peter Brown and Chaka Khan records. Cher and Bill Cosby and Donna Summer too. I hardly watched the news back then. Maybe I was just out of touch in my Marin petri dish. Maybe I'm just an old white bigot, too stupid to know I'm also a racist. Good thing there are so many reminders!

 

disparities didn't stop after slavery. I work at some predominately black areas and these kids parents are f'ng idiolts and screwing their kids for life. the attitude gets passed down and this child, already dark-skinned and about to face the prejudice of the word on them, is going to do a horrible job convincing and succeeding against others.


NO one but black kids have to deal with this. and that's the point. I or they will have to wait until 350 million americans get passed dark-skin prejudice,
before they have a fair and even chance at integrating. This is one current aspect of white privelage.

~ oh you don't like having to answer for your race? Or being assumed something because of the color of it?

Welcome. You haven't experienced or heard 1/15th of the story. And lucky for you it will never economically effect you negatively. Being dark-skinned, in a country that still hasn't unanimously made up their minds about black people, or the fact it's considered different than white person or asian person, sucks.

I did not choose the prejudice I had. And I'm damn sure no race experienced so much hate and unfair disenfranchisement and history, and a color'd prejudice that was never f'ng asked for. Or needed.
Blacks were slaves for 200 years and they're lazy. Blacks were lynched, shot, killed on sight, dragged on the road, and their towns bombed and they're violent. Blacks were given civil rights after being forced in the slums and ghettoes, then once again [il-]legally ushered into ghettoes and slums, thanks to racist housing red-lining in the 60s, making the trap of the cycle of black poverty for future generations,

and they face current prejudices today that came from you abusing them for 200 years and brain-washing your populate, and these black people are supposed to be happy about it, and pick themselves up by the boot straps! otherwise they're a parasite to society.

good fucking lord.


Of course you're sick of hearing about it. How convenient. For you. Meanwhile different people literally live different lives because of the color of their skin so it would be nice if you just were happy it didn't matter for you if this got discussed or left alone.

 

The officer that reported the chiefs behavior is now getting death threats. I would imagine, like any organization, the attitudes and behavior

of the top person in an organization, has a great deal of influence on the organization and it's workers. Consequently, it would be interesting to hear from some black folks that live in this fools town. Fortunately, there was at least one officer that felt his behavior was inappropriate. By the bye, Oregon was a hot bed of KKK activity back in the day.

 

Actually it was less than 80 years before the US, as a new nation, was able to abolish slavery. A campaign that began before the declaration of Independence was dry. If not for the war of 1812, against England, slavery would likely have ended much sooner. It was one of the many sets of baggage the US inherited from the previous rulers.

And slavery was largely the domain of the wealthy, the 1% or so. As for what followed, if I were to subscribe to what you have here, it will simply never end. Black people in the US are eternally screwed. And white people in the US are all on easy street.

Really though, I am very puzzled by black politics. Particularly the ones who want the borders wide open. Or the ones fomenting violence against a whole race of people today, because of their color, or is FYF911 just a misunderstood blessing? There's plenty of conflict to go around I guess. As for me, I've worked all over the world and have seen real slaves with my own eyes. So the legacy of US slavery being drawn out for so long pales in comparison.

The US is being sold off by greedy traitors who smile in our faces. They come in all colors. We need to look the other way down the road since it's the only direction in time that we can fix. Until then, we keep a black candle lit!

 

hmmm, spoken like a true racist
it is rhetoric like what you are spewing that helps to fan the flames of racism and keep it burning. Go look in a fucking mirror.

racist come in all colors. As for your insistence that nobody ever faced the same discrimination as blacks, really?
tell that to Irish, Polish, Italian, etc immigrants that came here in the late 1800's and early 1900's.

You need a history lesson and maybe get that chip off your shoulder while your at it.

 

You didn't mention the Chinese, who along with blacks, received far less wages for the same and often harder and far more dangerous work during the railroads expansion west.

 

topic reminds of a great song

In man's evolution he's created the city And the motor traffic rumble. But give me half a chance and I'd be taking off my clothes And living in the jungle. Cause the only time that I feel at ease Is swinging up and down in the coconut trees. Oh what a life of luxury to be like an apeman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRHqs8SffDo

 

And What history? Who's? All of man's recorder history?

Fuck, I hate to break this to you but there has been a lot of nasty bloody shit happen to a hell of a lot of races since documented history...

We've got the Jewish Nazi Holocaust, Armenian Genocide, Assyran Genocide, Greek Genocide, Congolese Genocide, Cambodian Genocide, Red Terror Ethiopian Genocide, Nigerian Civil War Genocide, Rwandan Genocide, Zunghar Genocide, Circassian Genocide, Decossackization Genocide, Ustasha Genocide, Polish Massacre, Mayan Massacre, The Crusades...

There's not one person on this planet that doesn't come from a horrific homicidal violent ancestral past.

Let's also not forget that this wouldn't even be a story of it wasn't for decent white cops who reported the incident. Also the thousands of white people who died fighting for black rights. So maybe give white people some benefit of the doubt as your walking along all paranoid about their prejudice. And for those who are prejudiced, blow their fucking minds and prove them wrong with your thoughtfulness and kindness. It will be the best thing you can ever do for yourself and your race.

 

Doesn't happen often, but I completely agree with you on this.

 

Marin was a petri dish to be sure. When I needed to be culturally reminded I went to Vallejo or the El Super Burrito in Concord. Or California & Polk in the city!

You point out something interesting though. Since its incorporation the US had been trying to shift away from slavery. By outlawing importation (which was routinely violated in Louisiana, Texas and much of the Caribbean) the economy didn't contract as was feared. Instead it expanded as the lives of slaves became more valuable and less "disposable". The endless supply was gone.

It's similar to the reactions we see during prohibition though the commodity is different. The US, as a nation, was never engaged in the Roman style of slavery. If anything, it's part of why slavery ultimately became unprofitable. The US set the standard in this hemisphere for the eventual ending of slavery and human sacrifices. It wasn't an overnight transition, but it was short by comparison, around 80 years for the US to finally end it.

But when I think of the girls kidnapped by Boko Haram or the workers in the north African brick yards, I can draw far more empathy than I can for my fellow Americans who have not seen slavery in well over a century. The people I'm speaking of have been enslaved in this century, not the 19th. Just on the face of it I find the notion preposterous. I can't imagine trying to look back over a century and track down the sources of my grief. I have plenty enough to contend with in this century. My biggest problems these days come to me from assholes. And as far as I can tell, those come in all races, colors, sexes and levels of insanity.

 

I love the bashing I got in this thread just for bringing up race. NoxiousGas has been a general asshole too. SMH<

 

I'd hate to think that's why you contributed, to "prove" something. We don't talk much about race here because it's a non-factor for most of us. We tend to accept people as they are, but that doesn't mean you'll catch a break in the conversation. I should know. It's hard being an old white hippy these days. Corporations eject my kind quickly because we not only have free thinking (what they know as out of the box), but also because we are a liability to the company health plan. Corporations also take issue with my pot use though Spacely in Schenectady looked the other way because I got results and my staff behaved.

Nox is Nox and has skewered me with a truth a few times. He doesn't wince in fear about any issue and you can't beat him down with the race card, woman card, Hindu card or scratch-off card. I admit I like a lively discussion and you will find some rigid perspectives on HF. I've been here since 2002 and have only had a single death threat!!!

I admit though, I love the bashing I get too!

 

We need to debate this without getting personal. Second warning for more than one of you.

 

Congratulations Op,, you are now the official arm chair Al Sharpton.. Enough with bringing all this racist crap here.. Seems thats all OP has to offer, typical forum shit stirrer to pit our members against each other.. This is Hip Forum. Not Hip Hop forum..