Christian Church Beats Teen To Death For Sins

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by rjhangover, Oct 15, 2015.

  1. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam _|=|-|=|_

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    Sad story, that's really unfortunate for the kids to be raised in such an environment and subject to that crap.

    Thanks for the post op, making us aware of it and hopefully such awareness will eventually lead to changes in such sects or cults to prevent repeat incidents.
     
  2. Zzap

    Zzap Member

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    wrong parsing, 'done for you types', all one phrase not meant as an attack against you or your post, essentially in agreement with you.
     
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  3. Zzap

    Zzap Member

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    Yes the world is far better off in the hands of the United Gods of State.



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    and you thought you could vote them out?



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    by Stephen Lendman

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    It violates fundamental international, constitutional, and US statute laws. It does so with impunity. It's official US policy.

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    So what religion do you want to sell that will fix your Christian problem? Same with the OP, which one? The government?
     
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  4. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    I think this is a tragic story and my heart hurts for that boy. I hope this is a wake up call for his mother, she'll have some time in jail to think it over I assume. Humans are stupid creatures sometimes
     
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  5. guerillabedlam

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    Wtf?

    I was unaware brutally beating teenagers was an intrinsic part of Christianity. Are you insinuating this is what true devotion to the faith is?


    My idea is to paraphrase OkieFreak that's it' a perversion of the faith but regardless, it is not acceptable practice IMO and it's a tragic story.
     
  6. rjhangover

    rjhangover Senior Member

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    How many know that the christian bible and the torah (jewish bible) and the koran (muslim bible) all have Genesis,Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy in their "holy" books?

    Anybody know how many witches were burned at the stake here in the U.S by the christians.?

    Anybody know how many children have been sexually abused by Catholic priests? I was.

    Anybody know how many children were sexually abused by protestant priests? I was.

    Here's a clue.....it's a lot of damn "so called" "fringe nutbags".

    Just keep defending the christians and looking down your noses at those that aren't. I'm sure Jesus loves you for it.
     
  7. farmout

    farmout All who wander arent lost Lifetime Supporter

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    All religions are nonsense. Just a means to control and manipulate. One of the main causes of war is religion. I'm not afraid of your gods but I am afraid of your followers.
     
  8. Zzap

    Zzap Member

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    so you claim they are fringe nutbags and condemn them as a whole.

    again : So what religion do you want to sell that will fix your Christian problem? The government?
     
  9. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    Question #1---everyone that has responded to this thread thus far
    Question #2---absolutely of no relevance to this particular situation
    Question #3---no, I don't know the actual number, do you? And how does it compare to the general population? Is there actually a higher incidence or is it merely more publicized when it happens?
    Question #4---see answer to #3

    as Okie mentioned, that group was not what is considered "mainstream Christian" and conducted itself more along the lines of a cult more than a church.

    I am curious as to how many kids were killed at the hands of parents or other trusted persons that same day, but alas as it isn't as sensational as a religiously motivated killing, those poor kids hardly ever make the headlines.
     
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  10. Pieceofmyheart

    Pieceofmyheart Grumpy old bitch HipForums Supporter

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    Have you tried counseling? That hate you have because of what happened to you will eat you up inside. I am sorry you were abused, but many people were raised in Christian homes and not abused. There are many kids abused with NO religion at all.

    I do not look down my nose at anyone because of their faith or lack of it, and I have close friends in so many different religions. Honestly, by your posts, you are the one who seems looks down your nose on those of us who have a belief system that involves Christ.

    farmout said, "All religions are nonsense. Just a means to control and manipulate. One of the main causes of war is religion. I'm not afraid of your gods but I am afraid of your followers."



    I always find it odd to see such hate from people of no faith. No reason to fear and hate those of us who have a higher power, no reason at all. It just seems to me, if you have no religion, no faith, no higher power in your life...why get so mad at those who do instead of just living your life your way? I don't preach to others...so why do you ?

    Many people, children included are beaten, abused and killed NOT in the name of any religion, and sadly that happens daily.
     
  11. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Try to remember, people, to leave your emotions at the door when engaging in these threads.

    I'm talking to everyone, not singling any one out.
     
  12. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    The frustrated , disillusioned , flailing , hopeless Hippie Idealist is easily a Rainbow Nazi . The Rainbow Nazi
    action ? das'turdly mean and grinning . War is Peace . If the hate of religion leads to genocide - well , there
    does exist a dread among some hippies that the persecution will be toward them for being so oddly peaceful
    and non-materialistic , of incorrect odor .

    Ya , troubles in America . The war comes home ...
     
  13. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    only one thing to say about all that and those links;
    BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

    you have got to be kidding, you don't actually believe half that crap do you?

    Uhmmmm, I seriously doubt anyone here really gives two shits what you do or don't "basically like" as if you are some sort of authority that we should take seriously.....LOL
     
  14. rjhangover

    rjhangover Senior Member

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    Oh yeah, counseling....The department of Welfare made me go to counseling about a year later when I was twelve, when my mother was having a breakdown over her second divorce. They sent me to the mental hospital, who sent me to a boys ranch. It's like a prison, but without bars. It was full of fucked up kids. That's where I learned all about homosexuality and drugs.

    Let me ask you...If you were raped, would you be able to just forget about it? Do you think women that are raped can just put it out of their mind? Do you think other children that are sexually abused, don't have to live with it the rest of their lives?

    That boys ranch taught me that society is all about control and being assimilated... resistance is futile. It doesn't matter whether it's the GOP or the Democrats, the Catholics or the Baptists, the Muslims or the Jews....you must capitulate to the dogma.

    So pardon the shit out of me if I resent it.
     
  15. rjhangover

    rjhangover Senior Member

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    You aren't keeping up with the conversation. It was Noxiousgas's term "fringe nutbags". And I already said that I'm not pushing any religion.

    And as you can see from post #33, the gas is just a troll to insult your opinion...It's his way of making himself feel like an authority on everything....like Trump does.
     
  16. rjhangover

    rjhangover Senior Member

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    I doubt many here can be like the Vulcan Spock. No happiness, no sadness, no joy. No feelings makes people ...well not people.

    When talking about sexual abuse or rape, I think it's impossible to not get emotional...especially if you are a victim.


    Capitulating to this forum's dogma is a real challenge.
     
  17. Pieceofmyheart

    Pieceofmyheart Grumpy old bitch HipForums Supporter

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    I do not think I said forget about it, did I? But hating an entire religion because of what someone did to you doesn't seem reasonable to me. I believe people who have been harmed in that way need some help to deal with it. I cannot imagine hate helps with healing.
     
  18. Okiefreak

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    Is this a trick question? The Qur'an refers favorably to the Tawrat (Torah) but does not include the books of the Pentateuch as such. No witches were burned in the United States, although 20 accused witches were hanged or pressed to death by heavy stones in the Massachusetts Bay Colony in the 1690s. Most Protestants don't have priests, although they have their share of child molesting clergy. Pope Francis estimates that about 2% of Catholic priests are peodophiles, and the Southern Baptist Convention estimates that nearly 15 % of theirs are http://stopbaptistpredators.org/index.ht... There is no authoritative tally of children molested by Catholic or Protestant clergy, nor by clergy of other denominations, nor by scoutmasters, schoolteachers, or others, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, atheist, or agnostic. Are you suggesting that sexual molestation of children is somehow a practice peculiar to Christians? More to the point, are you suggesting that anything in Christian teachings would encourage such abuse?(See Mark 9:42; 10:14). If you really want to understand phenomena like pedophilia, I think you could make more progress by looking at why certain occupations or positions seem to attract pedophiles--because they are put in positions of trust or authority over children. Also, if you want to understand violence perpetrated by some religions, it might be useful to consider what elements of their doctrines or practices tend to attract authoritarian or sadistic personality types. Fundamentalist religions tend to be associated with authoritarian personality syndromes (Adorno, 1950; Fromm, 1857) characterized by obsession with authority and obedience, possibly corelated to problems in the ventromedial prefrontal cortex (vmPFC) of the brain (Asp, Ramachandran, and Tranel, 2012).But by no means are all Christians fundamentalists. It is a logical fallacy to think that if some members of a category have a certain characteristic, all do.
     
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  19. rjhangover

    rjhangover Senior Member

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    I didn't say I hated the religion, you just accused me of it. There is a big difference in hating the evil that is done in the name of God. In trying to defend that religion, you are condoning the actions of that kid being beaten to death.

    Jesus was beaten half to death and then crucified by the Jews that called for him to be crucified instead of Barabbas. The priests of the Jewish church condemned him because Jesus was a threat to their positions. To this day, the Jews deny Jesus as the Christ.

    The Christians of America defend Israel, and condemn Islam. At least the Muslims consider Jesus a prophet.

    I started this thread to point out the evil done in the name of God. There has not been any sympathy for the boy killed, only attacks on me, accusing me of "stirring the shit pot" and "hating an entire religion".
     
  20. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    LOL.....no troll here, actually it is you that has the penchant for posting crap like this in a manner designed to elicit the maximum emotional response from the reader, so if anyone in this thread could be labeled "troll" it certainly isn't me.
    I just get a good laugh out of the crazy shit wackos like you and zzap post and the over-the-top conclusions you arrive at...LOL
     
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