Republican Clown Car

Never said he was the best, just the best of the lot

 

They declared that shit publicly? Hallelujah!

 

Donald Trump mocked and made fun of a reporter yesterday for having a disability, dragging his candidacy down to an all-time new low in morals and taste: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/trump-mocks-person-disability-again?cid=sm_fb_msnbc

I don't think this will hurt his popularity at all, because his core supporters are mostly assholes who are sick and tired of being pressured to respect people who are different from themselves. They are high school bullies who never grew up.

It's such an international embarrassment that the US has so many of these people. A European politician who behaves this way would struggle to get up to 1% support in the polls.

 

It's not because they have a different political viewpoint, it's because they're spouting racism, bigotry, theocracy, fascism (and so on) as good wholesome values that a president should strive for.
By all means, having different viewpoints is good for keeping the country from running off too far in any direction.
But these are not just "differing viewpoints", these are definitively un-American principals that the Republican party leaders are pursuing and extolling.

 

Yup. And so we learn something about US demographics ....

 

I agree that we can see those principals as un-American. But concluding out of that (or conveniently portray it as such) that people who support and/or are part of the party therefor can simply be seen as un-American as well is too easy and mainly done to make them as a whole look even more unreasonable. Not because it really is right.

 

Telling lies about the president of the United States, saying he's a Muslim, a communist, a Kenyan not an American IS ANTI-AMERICAN. Defending the perpetrators of lies is a Nazi tactic.

 

Yeah, it'd be weird to conclude that all the voters of a party are automatically guilty of what their political candidates say.
Probably a good thing I never even suggested such a thing.

My comments were specifically about the candidates.
And it's not to "make them look unreasonable", it's to illustrate that they already are... I don't have to twist words or spin stories to show it.
All we have to do is directly quote them or post unedited video clips and we can easily see that the Republican candidates are largely un-American.

 

Because americans never lie, right?

Right.

 

There are Americans who rape babies, too... but you wouldn't defend their behavior as American.

At least, I hope not.

 

You weren't suggesting such a thing at all, Kickfrenzy But rjhangover's post is exactly why i wrote what i wrote.
Those actions are anti-American but the supporters of the republican party are not (not by default at least ). Same with every republican politician. A lot of people can make this obvious distinction. But when those who don't (want to) are making the most noise it may be worthwhile to point out the obvious again.

 

If americans rape babies then raping babies is an american behaviour.

I wouldn't defend it though.

 

Nope, that's a false equivalency.
It doesn't mean it's American behavior, it means it's behavior that some Americans are part of.

That's like saying that some black people listen to rap music.
I listen to rap music.
Therefor, I must be black.

(To be clear, I'm not black.)

 

I am starting to believe Donald Trump entered as a joke and doesnt want to win or drop out so he says the most outlandish things.

 

The supporters of the republican party are supporting the hate rhetoric that convinced the Planned Parenthood shooter to do the massacre. They also support the assault weapon that he used.

Fiorina, like you, claims that anyone that blames that rhetoric on those that say it, is just left wing tactics. The Nazis did the same thing to anyone that spoke out against Hitler.

The GOP is demonizing Muslims, Mexicans, the poor, gays, abortion, Planned Parenthood, and affordable healthcare. THEY GENERATE THE HATE JUST LIKE THE NAZIS did.

 

The people who oppose abortion are guilty of inciting the shooter in C-Springs.

 

Here's what rational people have a problem with. Not all of them support the hate rhetoric, by far. You can't say with such certainty that every supporter of that party does that by default. People that also dislike the republicans might go along with it but it remains wrong (maybe you think the goal excuses the method?) and put things (or rather any random republican supporter) in a slightly distorted perspective.

Not like me, as i didn’t claim that. Even if i would accuse you of something like that i wouldn't assume with certainty that it is done with the same motive the nazis had if I were you
I did claim your words are adding to the polarisation, not working against it, and that those assertements of you about all republican supporters and politicians are not really constructive or progressive in any way (maybe if they were more nuanced). I did not blame left wing tactics for it any time (or talked about other left wing people at all). It could just be you are oblivious to it.

I agree but the trick is to not by default project all this on every individual that affiliates themselves for whatever reason with the republicans. Then it just becomes another kind of demonizing (which is bad as you know. The nazis did it)

 

My mother, a republican, called yesterday and said she agreed with the motive of the Planned Parenthood shooter, just not his tactics.

Yes, she agrees with the hate speech that demonizes Planned Parenthood, but doesn't want the blame for the result.

Your attempt to defend the hate, by saying I'm being "the polarization" is like telling those apposed to the Nazis, that they are the problem.

 

I'm not defending the hate. I'm saying if you have a problem with the polarisation you should know your wording was adding to it.
I'm not saying you are the polarisation or are more polarizing than the republicans as a whole. Why do i need going out of my way saying this?