What Do You Think About Isis?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by natural philosophy, Nov 20, 2015.

  1. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    I heard Turkey thrown around a lot in response to your questions wiz, but it all seems to be conjecture at this point
     
  2. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Russia will buy oil from anybody, and they use a lot of oil. Same with China...
     
  3. They are a peaceful group of bank tellers and brain surgeons who want nothing more than to enjoy a slice of coffee cake once in a while.
     
  4. SpacemanSpiff

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    russia buys oil?


    seems weird since they have some of the largest reserves in the world
     
  5. Wizardofodd

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    Yup. I've read that quite a bit too. Turkey wasn't very happy about Russia bombing ISIS oil tanker convoys that were bound for Turkey. They responded by shooting down that Russian fighter jet.

    I definitely have my own theories about the intricacies at play. Even some possibly overlooked details like.....they just show up one day with thousands of fighters in black uniforms, thousands of flags, hundreds (if not thousands) of new trucks, the operational organization to feed and house all of these fighters, the capabilities of defeating armies and holding that much territory, etc? (I could go on) Who made the flags and uniforms? Who feeds them? Who pays them? Where did all of the equipment come from? I know they supposedly got some of it from the fleeing Iraqi army but there was a reason they were fleeing and it wasn't because of a bunch of unarmed desert nomads menacing them from afar. I can only see two scenarios playing out in that regard (if we're saying they were armed with weapons they basically found).....either the Iraqis, for whatever reason, were ordered to retreat and leave the weaponry behind or....the Iraqis.....trained by the US, armed with very capable US weapons and technology and somehow they still felt so outmatched that they dropped their weapons and ran. Who would scare them that much?
     
  6. Karen_J

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    Russia is a net exporter. China imports quite a bit, and they will buy from anybody. There are plenty of shady countries scattered around who aren't picky about their sources, if the price is right, on nearly every continent.
     
  7. meridianwest

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    most of the archaeologic artifacts ISIS has looted are also routed into Turkey through which they find their way into Europe and beyond.
     
  8. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I think the fact that their origins are connected to american government makes people assume and conclude ridicilous things. Question everything? I'm all for it. Concluding ludicrous nonsense because we should question everything... not so much :p
     
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  9. meridianwest

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    actually, even 'question everything' is a full nonsense. if you went around questioning everything and everyone, you wouldn't be able to make sense of anything. some things are to be taken at face value. and there is little reason to question most things that are happening in life, in fact.

    the fact that ISIS comes onto European soil to kill innocent civilians, people who had nothing to do with them or the war going on against them, is not redeemable whichever way you try to look at them to make sense of what they do. it's basic terror and nothing else. i find it disgusting that some people even think there exists a way this can ever be argued for.
     
  10. Wizardofodd

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    I'm not sure if that was directed at the questions I posed but those questions are some pretty good ones to have answers to if we want to defeat someone.
     
  11. xenxan

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    http://www.sott.net/article/308004-Yes-its-all-about-the-oil-Again-Syria-the-ultimate-pipeline-war

    http://www.sott.net/article/308029-NATOs-jihad-Turkey-invades-ISIS-occupied-Iraq-US-attacks-Syrian-forces

    Follow the money; it leads to Wash: Turkey and NATO
     
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  12. Asmodean

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    No, not at all. More about people concluding because of their origins that the american or other western governments are also behind IS's terrorist attacks. That these people we saw in the media are crisis actors payed by said governement(s). That kind of thing. Especially if it gets 'proven' with pics of said crisis actors at different locations. I mean really? How stupid does these people think the government is? Hiring the same people to cry in front of the camera at different staged terrorist attacks.... LOL.

    Anyway, like I said asking questions is one thing. Concluding things with certainty ONLY because things doesn't add up or because it seems likely because we can connect some hypothetical dots is another. And you ask some good questions. Btw asking or stating the obvious is sometimes not so pointless at all either! :) But there lies an answer in your questions, and I for one don't even give a shit if it is considered (like I said I see the point in questioning/considering everything), but when it is claimed by certain people on here as the inevitable truth (like IS are still controlled and supplied by the US government) I think it is worthy to point out such convictions deserve to be questioned at least as much, same with the sources and supposed evidence or arguments for it. Because they do not seem more credible so far. Usually the argument is something like because the roots of IS can be traced to US government they are also DIRECTLY involved in what IS does now. I would like to be convinced of that with proper arguments.
     
  13. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    I said not to be mean, guys.

    This certainly seems mean.
     
  14. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yeah... lol
     
  15. *Yogi*

    *Yogi* Resident Racist

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    They have all been 'called from shitallah to take up arm against all who don't buy the islamic/muslim bullshit! The whole world had a hand in creating them, now time to eradicate them all wholesale, by ANY means possible! It is not a religion, just a gaggle of rules that the fucktards follow! They are all one in the same.
     
  16. Tyrsonswood

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    Who are all one and the same?
     
  17. xenxan

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    Are you including the 50 tonnes of equipment that they dropped in Syria for the "Anti Assad Rebels'? (aka ISIS)

    Notice Turkey has invaded Northern Iraq and building a base there; while America does the same thing just a bit further south.

    How is it Turkey and America can waltz into Iraq; build bases; all the while the Iraqi Government says get out. NATO is there for these things yet they do nothing.

    All this is a NATO run genocide. All the refugees and their blood are on the hands of NATO: America and Turkey.

    This is an appalling situation. Led by Obama and Ergdon. I cannot believe the blindness of the American public; squabbling over 'safe zones'; whether the Dems are better then Reb and race. All just a distraction to sway our interest onto non issues.

    These are the times all should be questioning the antics of the government of the day. Yes, Obama and his media related staff members.
     
  18. inthelibrary

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    They have American equipment because America gave it to them. America, the Pentagon, created Isis, I like to call them icycles.
     
  19. SpacemanSpiff

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    i seem to remember australian troops also invaded iraq
     
  20. Irminsul

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    I never understood how America creates Isis. Just because they give them money and weapons? Man, us Germans been paying the world back fuck loads for a fuck long time, might have to start thinking that I created y'all.
     

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