Laced Heroin 80 Fatal O. D.s

Discussion in 'Opiates' started by Aerianne, Feb 16, 2014.

  1. mindbender62

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    There has been arrests for "manslaughter" for selling bags to fatal overdoses.... Sad all around
     
  2. Shocbomb

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    My advice as a long time user,if you are using and you know damn well you are not going to stop straight up go on methadone it will probably save your life #1 and #2 possibly help you get your life manageable and in order.In my opinion I would say a good amount of those people if not all who died would probably still be here today even if they were on a low mg dosage of methadone. For me after the 4th time I Od'ed on Fordham road in Bronx that was it for me I knew I had to make changes and real fast.I was only sniffing at the time also not shooting,I sniffed 2 fucking stamps thats all and thats all it took with the Fentanyl in it and I had a nice size habit at that time.These stamps called Malibu previous to this were shitty I hated when they were the only stamps around on the block when I went and coped. So I had no reason like previous times I od'ed to think these were fire stamps that I really had to watch out for.But this time it was different that shit hit me like a ton of bricks walking back to the train after I sniffed the 2 bags,the next thing I remember I am in the back on a ambulance waking up after they just hit me with Narcan.

    I was young in my mid 20's and like I said above that was it for me,I said fuck this and I made the choice to go on a methadone clinic right after that. In hindsight looking back now its one of the smartest things I ever did in my life. I knew if I did not go on methadone that most likely within a short time I would of wound up dead from a OD or in serving a long prison bid, Shit the best case scenario was being homeless living in some shit Ghetto just living life from shot to Shot strung out until I finally OD'ed. I am not going to lie I still use now on methadone every now and then but not nearly like I once did in my younger years. I can at least hold down a job and have your quote normal life AKA not the crazy chaotic life that a daily heroin addict leads. It's just a thought if you are someone who is using Heroin daily why not think about getting on methadone ? It can only hope and might just save your life in the end


    The most famous stamp that killed so many people in the late 80's and early 90's in New York city was called Tango & Cash, That fucking laced with fentanyl killed a hell of a lot of people. Another one that was famous went around in the mid 2000's in the Bronx and North Jersey that was called The Thing & Buck Shot.
     
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  3. guerillabedlam

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  4. happydude_60

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    Is Fentanyl cheap? This sounds like greed to me.
     
  5. Shocbomb

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    I really don't know,I think its probably very cheap because from what I gather most the time the fentanyl used to lace the dope with is not gotten from pharmacies,hospitals,etc,its cooked up by dirty chemist. So I would think like most hard drugs synthesized by chemist Meth,Angel Dust,etc its really cheap as all hell to make ?

    What I think happens most of the time is this,at least in the North East where stamp bags of heroin are very prevalent and branding of that stamp is everything and where your business and profit comes from with users spreading it by word of mouth. Users know what stamps after they come out and use are good,great bad and shit. So when a bad stamp is known to be real bad and that dealer is loosing a lot of $ he probably will buy some some Fentanyl to make that stamp more powerful so the word will go around on the street that stamp is now fire AKA street slang for great dope. The problem is you mix in too much that shit is so deadly. Its such a fine line and a user who only has a low tolerance or none at all when they use its like playing Russian roulette. You will see it all the time stamps that were real bad and all of a sudden one day they are fantastic and every one is talking about them. You wonder did the purity and % of the heroin just go up or did they just add some Fentanyl to it ?
     
  6. happydude_60

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    Yeah, and what makes it worse is the time of onset, which according to info on Drugs.com is almost immediate with IV injection and the duration of action is 30-60 min. So according to that a person wouldn't even know they're in trouble. They'd just immediately be out, and anyone with them wouldn't even have time to get them help.
     
  7. guerillabedlam

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    I'm not too into opioids but I have some sources to view prices. I mean it's definitely cheaper, so yah that likely plays a large role but I am kind of surprised as Heroin doesn't seem all that expensive itself.
     
  8. happydude_60

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    I think it's cheap and they're cutting the heroin to a very low percentage to make more profit and adding fentanyl to make up for it. They just don't know what they're doing, because with fentanyl there's such a fine line between having a good time and od'ing.
     
  9. guerillabedlam

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    Yah probably, but the other disconcerting thing imo, particularly if I was a user, is that since fentanyl is active in the microgram range, one could potentially have near pure heroin and it could still be cut with a dose of fentanyl several times that of the medicinal dose. Might lend itself to powerful synergy between the drugs.
     
  10. thismoment

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    In this context, yes, but medically, in terms of pain management it's a great tool. The duragesic/fentanyl patches are an effective option when a patient's pain is severe and relatively stable. It can be taken orally and in minute injections for other purposes. Recreationally, I think it has the potential to be a total fucking disaster. In the end, the killer awoke before dawn...

    And now, for you final entertainment, there is W-18. I'm sure some of the news is overblown, but still.

    The "drug war" slaughter continues.
     

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