Psychedelic Bump XXXIV

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  1. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    Agreed about psychedelics being a guaranteed short-cut, but I think there is also some question of what you come out with. As you have to put in the effort to meditate, you likely will be inclined to apply what you've experienced to your life. On the other hand, how many psychedelic users really do integrate the experience into their lives? I mean, it's all good to say that you've learned a lot while on the drugs, or shortly after. But how many of us haven't seen someone tripping hard, making promises and decisions which either are slowly eroded over time or just never get implemented at all?

    I read something the other day where someone likened psychedelics to a key. It allows you to open that "door", but you still have to put the key in, open the door and go through it.
     
  2. SuperPsychMe

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    Bump for the day after the Doctor P show. The show was awesome. We smoked a whole heap of weed beforehand. My friends molly guy was supposed to be going to the show so thats what we were planning on. The dude ended up sleeping through the show. So we went to another guy my friend knows and we each got a tab. Couldn't see the press clearly, it was too dark. They felt like a fairly low dose of MDMA and meth. Danced our asses off, went home, smoked a lot of weed, got some donuts. Then I came home, made some soup, smoked more weed and slept a little bit. After I had slept and eaten, I went up to the store because they're selling generic cough syrup for 62 cents a bottle, so I grab 2 bottles. So I did 450mg or so over the course of the night. I just maintained a 1st plateau
     
  3. thismoment

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    I think psychedelics and cannabis lead some people to enrich themselves and others or even dedicate their lives to art or music or mercy or service or community or just being a better person. That's what happened with me. Acid vision really has been integrated into my life.
     
  4. guerillabedlam

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    Bump for MDMA + Pot last night, intense coding fun. Also bump for acquiring LSD.
     
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  5. unfocusedanakin

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    This is true for some people. I know two different guys who while on a LSD trip swore they were done with cigarettes. In that state of mine it seemed so toxic to them but a few days after the trip they were back to a pack a day. But then I also hear stories of people who after one trip totals quit other drugs. It does come down to the user. You can lead a horse to water but you can not make them drink it. Psychedelics do the same they show you you the way to the river but that's it.
     
  6. guerillabedlam

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    In terms of using psychedelics medicinally, set and setting cannot be understated. These are more than just buzzwords and I believe when used appropriately, there is a significant increase in the likelihood for psychedelics to have a significant impact on a wide spectrum of ailments, afflictions and disorders.
     
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  7. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    Agreed with all of you. Psychedelics can really improve mindset and mentality over a long-term duration, but it does require a certain mindset, and a willingness to accept new modes of living. This is where something like psychedelic therapy comes in, where there is a guided attempt to change old thought patterns and really work on yourself. Thus, also why I say that I don't think having a psychedelic experience inherently improves your quality of life. It depends on the user as to what the outcome is.

    Also, funny thing about the set and setting you mentioned guerilla - I was reading a book about LSD research in Western Canada (the same group is the reason why peyote is specifically exempt from drug laws in Canada), and this group was working on LSD therapy. Now, the government agencies saw the data and decided that there was too much subjective experience involved in the outcome. They wanted to know the objective effects of LSD. The solution? Tie people onto a bed-frame in a completely bare room, inject them with LSD and see what happens. Sounds ideal for working on yourself, doesn't it? lol. Totally agreed though, set and setting are massive in the psychedelic experience, and something that a lot of people don't pay attention to.

    In other news, I saw Rick Doblin give a talk in person today. Interesting guy and he had some interesting bits of psychedelic history I hadn't heard of before. Right now MAPS is trying to raise $400 000 for a kilogram of MDMA; their previous batch was synthesized for $4000 by Dr. Nichols in the 1985. That was also a kilogram, but since he used some aluminum foil that didn't have the proper information background the MDMA is not considered to adhere to "Good Manufacturing Processes" (GMP). Apparently that 31 year old batch is still super high quality, very stable stuff. But the 960g they have left is not allowed to be used in the Phase 3 trials they have planned, due to not being GMP. Good old bureaucracy, lol.
     
  8. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    well, not being self-administering guinea pigs like us...most people would like some bureaucracy involved in the making of human drugs. :p
    imagine those 960 grams...

    cGMP seems to be a big deal in a lot of job applications i've been looking at lately.
     
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  9. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    Haha well the bureaucracy is definitely good, but it seems a damn shame to not be able to use so much MDMA just because of some aluminum foil. But I guess exceptions would ruin the whole system. Those 960g will at least be used to send to other researchers from what I hear, people who aren't doing phase 3 human trials anyway :)

    Have you been looking at pharma applications then? I would assume basic science biochemistry wouldn't require too much cGMP.
     
  10. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    yeah biotech/pharma companies. would be sweet if i can get a damn interview...
     
  11. unfocusedanakin

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    400K for a kilo damn. Some lab will make a lot on that. I mean if it can be made for pennies a dose on the black market who knows the GMP then of course.

    If it does become legal we are going to see the black market die. Like the Netherlands is going to need a new export. Those gangs don't seem as bad as the Mexican cartels but I've still heard some stories. It's not PLUR for them it's money to be defended by any means necessary.
     
  12. CannbisSouL

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    Good luck pork! I'll probably be playing the same game in a few years, haha. Seems to be a tough industry to get into, at least right now. I'm sure you've heard, but apparently Boston is bumping with biotech and start-ups. That, or silicone valley but that's way out there..

    Yeah the actual drug can't be that expensive to make.. the high cost is probably partially all the paperwork, quality control, and probably some slight mark-ups by those synthesizing the drug just because it is such a controversial substance. However I guess that once a supply pipeline/infrastructure has been set up that prices may drop a little bit. That will remain to be seen though.
     
  13. guerillabedlam

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    Bump for 2F-Ketamine


    This is pretty quality, definitely got a Racemic Ketamine buzzing feel to it. Potency is about the same as Ketamine proper.
     
  14. Popularity

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    I've held on to DMT for about a couple years without every trying it. I made "The Machine" for it but then let it pass my mind as I never really felt a pull toward it on any given day. I had a friend try it when I first got it but he said he didn't feel anything from it. I thought my doses were lost between me and my girlfriend, but recently stumbled across the baggie. My friend had been urging me forever to find it so we could try it. I gave him a 50mg dose a couple days ago. I was surprised to find out he reported a lot of activity. He used the sandwich method and took three long tokes which still had him present, but way above baseline. Later in the evening he got three more full drags and even more pronounced effects. I'm definitely excited to know it still has its potency and will hopefully feel a stronger pull to it soon. I'm thinking about purchasing a nectar collector to get the most out of it. Or I may try to use my machine if I can figure it out.
    Would you guys recommend trying a sub-blastoff dose for my first time or just go for it? If I remember correctly, I have about 300mg left.
     
  15. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    seems like people who have done DMT say to just blast off :)

    i've only tried it like 6 times, never broke through. but they were still quite interesting experiences. i haven't tried it in 4 years...still have a bong slide with the leftovers from the last time i smoked some haha


    i just saw Matisyahu perform for free tonight after work. was pretty cool, but a short concert due to being a neighborhood festival. was surprised to see him there, and surprised that it was on a tuesday.
    i also bought tickets to see The Dirty Heads!, Sublime with Rome, and Tribal Seeds this summer...pretty pumped for that.
    i doubt that i'll trip for it, but i always could...
     
  16. guerillabedlam

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    This
     
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  17. unfocusedanakin

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    I still have 2 batches of DMT I have not touched in a few years. I might need to re-investigate the machine elves. To blast off you really need quality stuff. One batch is light visuals the other is a whole other dimension.
     
  18. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    i'm hopeful that it seems to remain active for quite some time. i'm pretty certain my batch was quality when i first got it. actually, there are two separate ones, and i'm not 100% sure i've tried the one i suspect to be better. anyways, my experience with DMT was definitely more than "light" visuals. the closed eye geometric patterning and imagery are some of the strongest visuals i've ever had. there doesn't see to be much in the way of open eyed visuals, although i tend to have my eyes closed for most of the trip. the feeling was pretty otherworldly, but i didn't break into "hyperspace." for me, it felt like more of the 5th dimensional waiting room or something :)
     
  19. guerillabedlam

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    Bump for 2 hits LSD
    Approx ~220 ugs
     
  20. thismoment

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    Hi GB, How was it? Where were you? All that good detail.

    Hey Pork! My advice is to look at jobs in the SF Bay Area. Somebody is getting all those jobs that overpay and drive rents out the ass in SF.

    I just spent three days in the Mendocino area. I'm pretty old and I've traveled and trekked a lot, and I've never seen such extravagance of beauty. Acres of gardens, redwoods, and then the Pacific - surf coming in to the headlands, beach, rocks. We didn't trip, but it was a trip. Being legal to smoke some of the world's best cannabis certainly added to the experience lol. Anyway, Pork, I've seen some of your photos of your park and see you enjoy beauty. This will blow you away.

    GB, have you ever taken the 38L to Lands End and tripped on one of the beaches?
     
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