Clinton Vs. Trump

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Karen_J, Feb 25, 2016.

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President of the US - November 2016 election

  1. Hillary Clinton

    19 vote(s)
    65.5%
  2. Donald Trump

    10 vote(s)
    34.5%
  3. Gary Johnson

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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  2. Karen_J

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    How can you live to be her age and never change your mind about ANYTHING? That would be a red flag to me. A sign of a narrow, closed mind.

    I remember when almost every straight person was against gay marriage. It hasn't been that long ago. Society evolves. It has to evolve.
     
  3. LivingLifeAlive

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    Yes, that is all true. I do think she panders but then again shes a politician. I mostly personally take issue to her husband's crime bills of the 90's that she supported which lead to mass incarceration. But I do agree with you that people change and evolve.
     
  4. Karen_J

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    He's not running for office. He had his time. He doesn't tell her what to do.
     
  5. LivingLifeAlive

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    Cant argue w/ that & admittedly there were a lot of gang problems back then.
     
  6. Tyrsonswood

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    On the other hand, she may tell him what to do.
     
  7. Flagme15

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    Trump saying that Hillary enabled Bill's indiscretions. That's ironic, coming from someone who has been married five times
     
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  8. Meliai

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    You know what I actually like about the Donald over Clinton?

    Trump is anti free trade. I mean, supposedly. He hasnt changed his views on free trade after going Republican so that just might be a legit view.
     
  9. Karen_J

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    The only issue where he agrees with Bernie.
     
  10. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    I like how aggressive Donald was on Jeb Bush, and convinced republicans that Dubya was a disaster ( a task no liberal or libertarian could ever dream to accomplish )
     
  11. GeorgeJetStoned

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    That's what I like about Trump and Sanders, the way they shake the tree and then shake it again and say shit that freaks out the media. It's been one hell of a show so far. I have a powerful feeling that Hillary may not do so well in WV. Just a guess!
     
  12. Karen_J

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    I'd bet a good bit of money on it. In the primary, and in the general election.

    WV wants what's best for WV, not for the rest of the US or the world. They want coal mined and burned in unimaginable amounts, with no restrictions. Except for chemicals around Charleston, and logging and tourism in the eastern third, they have no other economy.
     
  13. Flagme15

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    Trump also agrees with Bernie on the minimum wage.
     
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  15. Karen_J

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    Depends on which day of the week you catch a Trump speech, and which way the wind is blowing. Bernie is consistent.
     
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  16. Meliai

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    Yup, and this is the true purpose of the superdelegates, to ensure the popular vote doesn't elect someone who is a guaranteed loss in the general election.

    Neither Bernie or Hillary really have a chance of going into the convention with the neccessary pledged delegates needed to clinch the nomination so it will come down to the superdelegates. If they go for Hillary i feel like they're handing Trump a victory.
     
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  17. Karen_J

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    Minorities and women are going to vote for him in significant numbers? Seriously? There's not enough angry old white men left to elect anybody to anything, on the national level.
     
  18. Meliai

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    But the bottom line is Bernie is doing better than Hillary in polls against Trump. Despite what everyone says, he is the more electable candidate according to polls.

    Democrats win when voter turn out is high. I dont see Hillary inspiring a high voter turn out, but those angry white men will show up in droves to vote for Trump.
     
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  19. Karen_J

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    Good point.
     
  20. 6-eyed shaman

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    Let the generalizing begin
     
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