Sex and Nudism: A Philosophical Question

If someone is comfortable with nudity in public, that is one thing. But everyone's sexuality is bent and twisted in one way or another, everyone is sexually repressed, and if you see people having sex in public they will be on some sort of bent and twisted ego trip, but if you ever see two people that were very comfortable with their sexuality, loving and intimate with each other having sex in public that would be totally different, that would be very beautiful, but where to find such people I have no idea, most people do not even attempt to resolve the smallest of problems in their life, little alone tackling something like sexual repression.

 

In some cultures sex is used as a tool for procreation, and nothing else.
In western civilization, sex is more of a recreation. Although the U.S. Is fairly liberal, when it comes to sexual mores, it's pretty conservative.

 

There's a contradiction there. If the U.S. is conservative about sex, shouldn't that say we keep sexual matters out of the public eye? We most definitely don't, but there was a time when we did. Think of President Kennedy's sexual adventures which were never publicly mentioned, whereas Bill Clinton got crucified for doing much less.

I also heard a conversation reported, or maybe it was fictional, where a foreigner was talking to an American. The foreigner says "I don't understand why your country has such a reputation for being conservative about sex, but there's a huge pornography industry and sexual innuendo everywhere." And the American says, "Our conservative character is why those things exist."

 

I think it has been expressed here beautifully well that many nudists want the luxury of a place where they can indulge their desire for social nudity with no unwanted sexual pressure.

And that is as it should be. Even as a never-married single man, I understand that social nudity venues can only work if the women (and children if present) feel safe, comfortable, and secure. Otherwise it all falls apart. A nudist resort can only be successful as a business when the women feel comfortable being there.

And that is of course why many nudist resorts and clubs don't permit single men.
As a single man who manages to behave himself pretty well in a social nudism setting, I can easily understand this.
I may not always like it, but it is exactly what it is and nothing will change that.
I respect the wishes of others to feel comfortable even though it sometimes means I'm "left out" and not included, or sometimes not allowed in at all.

Those who want both social nudity and sex will find it one way or the other.

 

Nudity and social nudism is not about sex it's true...
in very much the same way that sex is not about nudity.

At most nude resorts you'll find two or three people for whom nudity is mostly about water volleyball.
It they are very focused on that, spend their work-week looking forward to playing again on the weekend, and are focused in that way more so than other aspects of social nudism, then I think that's what it's about for them.
If they happen to also enjoy a shade of exhibitionism at the same time that does not make them less a "true nudist" in my perception.
If they also enjoy a little of something sexual from time to time in a nudist setting (behind closed doors), then I feel the same.. what nudism is or is not "about" is a bigger question than I feel I can even grasp.

I personally don't feel I'm in a position to judge and confer "approved true nudist status" on anyone.

 

That is exactly right. The government supports the pr0n industry because without laws that stigmatize and criminalize the healthy enjoyment of our shared sensuality and sexuality they would have no demand.

In areas where there is a healthy appreciation of sensuality they have far fewer problems related to it. None of this is news.

 

I think it's usually wrong to talk about what "the government" does as if it's someothing imposed on the population. Almost everything our government does is supported by a public consensus--you know, that "we the people" gang. You can certainly find issues of open confict, such as regulations about abortion, or the availability of firearms, or plenty of environmental concerns, with highly political factions on each side of the question. But pornography or sex, not so much. Not everyone agrees about things, but they aren't currently demanding more, or less, regulation by the government. Or am I getting this wrong, and you'll point out how lots of people really are feeling that their sex lives are repressed by official policy?