Taken seriously?.. I need to rant.

My issue is that, mothers side of the family is ultra-conservative and this side of the fmaily happens to be more involved with my life.... Now I find them very demanding of me because they expect so much, and everything I do seems to be something completely unknown to them and they seem to strive to make everything about me a major topic when at family functions...I'm a complete outcast...

Now, to anyone who has paid any attention to my previous threads you know what type of life style I want to live... now I recently brought this up with my Father (who is a naturalist) and he completely supported me on it which made me feel like I was on the right track...now when I mentioned it to my mother and my sister they just kind of looked at me and told me it was unrealistic...My sister said with this thoughtful look on her face "I never realized until now that your a true hippy" ... I didn't know whether to be happy about her insight because she seems to not express herself the way she wants.... my mother told me that I would get sick of it and want more space after a little while, and I don't get it. More space? I'll have the fucking world before me.... she keeps saying how I'm going to come back telling stories about how stupid it was, and I told her that I would come back telling her stories of all the places I've been and experiences I've had and all she said was "true" ....

Is it completely foriegn to some people that nature is freedom?

I am so completely frusterated how people go on an on about how they want freedom and continue to work there fucking corporate jobs, paying taxes to money hungry fascists...people these days live to work, isn't it more ideal to work to live... why is wanting freedom being lazy ?

People are so overcome with the fear of the unknown that it controls them. They enslave themselves to make more money, because without that status they feel unsecure. Money runs this fucking world, imagin how it would be if all off us just stopped working... stopped being a fucking corporate tool... the economy would come crashing down because the rich can't handle to think for themselves... Hell if everyone would stop this bullshit there would be no such thing as poverty, famine would not exist. The world would be one. Equal. Status would be to those with kindness in there hearts and love shown in there smiles...

I am so fed up with this .... greed.

But it wont change. It's impossible to do something revolutionary when the world is so close to complete destruction...

Destruction of my mind.

 

i know how you feel, my mom thinks i need to just go make money find a wife and buy a house...i guess its not really a problem because im gonna travel whatever hippie bus or live in whatever forest no matter what she says :sunglasse

 

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that was awesome and i hear you sista. i guess im just old enough now to say i felt like that at that age too!

and believe me dont change the way you feel because you probably wont. not once you have that spirit in you.

i feel like ive just done the whole work your ass off to make someone else rich thing.

and recently ive realised that i cant conform to that although ive tried to, and for awhile thought i wanted to.

your not lazy, you are yourself.

my boyfriend changed his name 8 years ago and his family still find it impossible to call by his name. because its a hippie kinda name maybe??

but he is a fucking hippie! Ha!

anyway ive learnt from this that it takes time to sink into your familys head, even if you are right in front of them saying "hello..this is me!"

i also try not to let them get to me about being a lazy hippie as well

so what if i want to study instead of work 9-5 and have more time for our massage clinic? so yeah. family i guess.

thanks for sharing your thoughts, keep believing in yourself.

love from
august_moon

 

I'm glad to hear someone shares my thoughts.... I was starting to think i was the only one.

 

These people are wrong. Just totally wrong.

The thing is, it's just too ingrained in them. This feeling that you have to work to be a success. It's because, under all their thoughts that this makes you a success, and that they're a success, they know it's a sham - they aren't happy.

If there was another way, what excuse would they have for living their life as they have? They resent our freedom because, if they accepted it, they would be admitting that they have screwed themselves over. So, instead, they continue to push on you what has been pushed on them, just trying to make another generation of brainwashed workers, without even knowing it. Don't be part of that generation.

 

yeah, maybe some 'enslave themselves' for money and status - but...

i have worked all my life. and i continue to do so, probably always will work - luckily i work for myself for now but it's work nonetheless. and i'll tell ya why i've always had to work - my kids. don't condemn everyone with a 'fucking corporate job' - it pays the bills, puts food on the table.

i'm not sure how you plan on getting by in life, but not working is a lot of work too. my house is sometimes quite full of people who don't work for a living - and they work damn hard and have a rough life backpacking across the country, or living in their vans, or jumpin on/off tour. a lot of them really appreciated my 'fucking corporate job' - we give them a place with a hot shower, food to eat, washing machine for their clothes, blessed air conditioning in the summer! the list goes on. and it seems they can never leave until they have seen every video in the collection - usually a couple of weeks at the least!

dumpster divin, hitchhikin, washin in lakes and sleeping in the woods may seem idyllic to you. but don't be bashing all us worker bees. idyllic to me is my hammock, cold brew, hot bbq and some mint chocolate chip ice cream

 

maybe what i'm trying to say was summed up so succinctly by Janis:

freedom's just another word for nuthin left to lose

 

success means different things to different people...
Some think if they can go out and buy a new vehicle every 2 years they are a success, to me having a 20 year old truck that is good on gas,easy to work on yourself, and paid for .....is success.
Buying a bit of land and building our own house instead of owing on a interest laden 30 year mortgage is a success to me.
But some are into the status thing.

There is nothing wrong with working if it puts you where you want to be, and your not hurting others or the earth by doing so.
If you are fortunate enough to be able to do what you love and make a bit of money at it....thats great.
Its also nice to barter when you can and take the paper stuff out of the equation.

But in the mean time, be yourself, find your passion and your way.

If little is enough for you then anything more is a feast.

Right on,
teepi

 

yup! yup! yup! what she said.

about this whole corporate bashing thing - you know, there's quite a few 'hippies' in the work force - i used to wear patchouli into the office just to ferret them out. i HAD to work at the best paying job i could get to support my rugrats, just so happened i worked in a very nice upscale office - so status and materialism is not always the goal of 'brainwashed workers'. and it's always nice to be on a first name basis with a few lawyers & cpa's - lol!!!

but you're young and unencumbered, i'd say if you see a good chance to get some experiences then go for it - once you start a family it's way mucho harder to get out.

 

By choice I lived on the street for a few months, when I was a teenager. Eating garbage, begging for food and/or money to get food, not wearing clean clothes for several weeks, not properly bathing or brushing, all added up. I didn't like it and I went home eventually. But, it is an experience that I do not regret. I learned a lot during that time, about people, about life, about myself.

Go for it. You will learn a lot from the experience. Do it while you are young and have no children, because then your priorities will likely shift somewhat and the stability of a steady paycheck will be quite tempting.

 

My take is everyone here has posted pieces of the truth here ,even you. I would add this, so that you can feed yourself and not have to beg or enslave yourself to live. Google search-Kurt Saxon, the perfect 3.3 cent breakfast, thermos cookery,and Saving money with a thermos bottle. You are confronting a shadow dicotomy. A damned if you do sort of thing... or rather damned no matter what you do. America love it or leave it is this sort of thing. Look behind the smoke and mirrors of this kind of thinking and you find the choices they are giving you all lead to keeping you powerless. And I don't mean the people including you and me and the others who have posted on this topic. I mean society in general. There's only a hand full of companies who manufacture soap or breakfast cereal yet we are given hundreds of options on what to eat or how to bathe. Water lye and vegetable oil (and knowledge )will give you all the soap you need. I wish I had known this when I was about to cut loose the apron strings. But now I feel like I am in the matrix tied to the machine and ready to be flushed because I'm not producing enough current! Peace be with you. Forgive those who cannot see your vision quest. But as jefferson airplane said- In loyalty to their kind they cannot tolerate our rise. In loyalty to our kind we cannot tolerate their obstruction. Jay

 

I did not intend for this to end up in a corportate bashing thing, and I also don't plan on livng on the street bagging for food and money. Everyone needs to work to live and thats the way it will always be. But I simply wont dedicate my life for someone elses frivolous lifestyle. Now I don't really want to get into all of my plans but put simply I will work for myself and sell my own merchandise. By doing this I'm able to fund my way of life quite easily. The majority of people now a days work so they are able to feel like they are making something of there life, they have it so pushed into there brain that they honestly believe that to be successful you need to have all the lastest technology and have everything bigger and better than everyone else.... now to me luxury is seeing the open road ahead of me, a little cash in my pocket and a full tank of gas. Now thats just me, but I guess what I'm trying to say is that to be successful in life you don't need someone to make your life for you....
I understand that majority of people do need to work for someone else because they feel that is their only way to support themselves. There are other ways, but I suppose if your happy with the lifestyle your living right now, completely happy then everything I've been saying is completely bogus. Difference of opinion I suppose.

 

girl, you are on the right track. i want to come give you a BIG HUG!!

know that you are not alone in your feelings. there are many others who feel the same way, and there are many more that don't feel anything. if they did, they'd feel what we feel.

mindless consumerism has brought society to the point that it is at. think about it: what are some of the most expensive things in life? a car, car insurance, a house, and house insurance. the only thing you truly need of those things is a house and a house can be had for much, MUCH cheaper than they'd lead you to believe. seriously, a small house which would be more than enough can be built for around 20% of what the average person pays.

simply put, why work all your life to buy worthless stuff that you dont need and wouldn't have the time to enjoy anyway? I enjoy my thoughts, my contemplation, observation of nature, and understanding nature. money can't buy you any of those.

if you haven't already, i'd like to suggest you read "Walden" by Henry David Thoreau.

Just a few quotes from Thoreau you may enjoy (also note the one in my sig):

If a man walks in the woods for love of them half of each day, he is in danger of being called a loafer. But if he spends his days as a speculator, shearing off those woods and making the earth bald before her time, he is deemed an industrious and enterprising citizen.

That man is rich whose pleasures are the cheapest.

There is no more fatal blunderer than he who consumes the greater part of his life getting his living.

Most of the luxuries, and many of the so-called comforts of life are not only not indispensable, but positive hindrances to the elevation of mankind. With respect to luxuries and comforts, the wisest have even lived a more simple and meager life than the poor.

take care,

humandraydel

 

Thanks for the hug, and thanks for supporting me. I appresiate that.

 

i'm sorry sweet heart, corporate bashing is an ugly thing to say when you are just expressing your dismay at the 'system'. i too am dismayed by the system and even though i've had to work in the corporate world for way too long, i have always been on the lookout for my escape. i have bucked for 'disgruntled employee of the month' for many, many years.

just don't be so hard on all those stuck in rush hour traffic - some of us just wandered into the work force and could never find our way out again. there are some wonderful people there, we are not all there to accumulate wealth and status.

be free, do what you love!!!! have fun - life is not a dress rehersal, this is it!

and, even though i love my sons more than anything and i believe they give purpose to my life, my advice to you is don't have babies (yet!) until you are prepared to do whatever it takes to take care of them.

if you can learn to live with less 'stuff', you can have more life and less work in your living. i hate that saying, what do you do for a living? should be obvious, i LIVE! not i work!

sorry again for the harsh words. i want to give you a big (((((HUG))))) too, and wish you well in your adventures - keep us posted

 

Dear junkie,
You started this thread with corporate bashing. Especially paragraphs 4 and 5. Then you say in your jan 24 post that it was not yor intention.
It is my opinion that you are simply 17 and fighting being controlled. And do not realize that you already are.
It is also my opinion that love and hate are two ends of the same line. REREAD
You say you won't beg for food. What happens when the concert or festival you plan to sell your wares at gets rained out and no one comes to buy your stuff. What happens when your vehicle repair costs exceed the money you made at the last gig?

 

ain't dat da truth!!!! or, sometimes you get your wares/cash confiscated for 'unlicensed vending' - PA in particular was bad this year, it rained AND the cops took everything they could lay their hands on, snagged cases full of crystals from kids, took cash from others, and told them they were lucky there was no police report. but no report, no way to get your property or cash back. luckily we had holed up in the hotel, ordered chinese food & watched cable but a lot of kids got fubar.