Is Tv Manipulating People's Fantasies?

Your snarkiness is what amuses me here. Do we have free will without tv and media?

If not, and if we can still come up with a thought out opinion that differs from the global opinions in the neighbourhood or put forth by the media/on tv (maybe the consensus in soaps on how to live life well etc. could also be included) how does watching moderately and selectively tv while using your brain take away from my free wil?

Don't get me wrong: it is clear we are influenced by everything we take notice of and in that way we can be manipulated easily as well. Of course! But wether taking notice of tv or other media takes away from free will is a slightly different thing and arguable in the end. It seems to depend mostly on the person and how selective and with what intent they watch.

 

There is a magic button on a TV that many people don't know about.


It's called the OFF button..... Use it!

 

There's a difference between mindless watching and using your brain. People love to blame other things then themselves for stuff that makes them feel like a sheepish fool but often it is just the person itself. Sorry people, you do have (some) free will, you're just not using it

 

When you are continually exposed to a false belief day after day and it is reinforced by people around you who also are exposed to the same idea on a daily basis, you begin to believe it.

 

I don't have a TV, but when I watch other people's what often startles me most is the drug commercials. Like how they advertise prescription drugs. It amazes me on a few different levels.

 

Tv is a really powerful conditioning medium. I think that alot of people relax or unwind to watch tv and then probably associate that carefree "high" feeling with whatever products are being sold to them or absorb the personalities of what they see. I think that when they then try to replicate those often unrealistic expectations or buy the products that work maybe only half as well as advertised, this creates a disconnect that would be kind of like their "crash" and then they go back to the tv to placate themselves

 

That's it. Media goes for what sells. Guess what, people have been so far removed from reality to be made cogs in the machine that they're crazy. Crazy sells. Crazy begets crazy. It's a cycle. It just happens to be approved by the "leaders" that keep us in slavery. I know there is state approved media in the US. I saw an admission of this 35 years ago on TV of all things. I cannot find one bit of proof now. However, I personally know it.

 

tv and the media in general is turning a whole generation into gays and lesbians

 

I believe you are referring to this http://www.out.com/news-opinion/2016/3/11/less-50-teens-identify-straight-says-new-study

It might be that we are now "allowed" to show our bonobo side.

I have a young daughter and am seeing this happen with her friends. One of my daughter's girlfriends seriously claims to be a homosexual boy. My daughter refuses to laugh at the joke, "I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body."

 

nope..i wasnt referring to anyones blog or whatever that is

i was referring to real life observations

 

I think one of the few positive things about media today is countering heteronormality/cisnormativity mentality. The truth is there are A LOT of homosexuals and what have you's out there, a lot more than the masses want to believe. People want to live in this bubble of lies and impose their beliefs on others based on those lies and that is simply wrong.

 

That is a study which shows the Generation Z doesn't feel sexual oppression.

However, the girl I mentioned seems to be jumping on the bandwagon. She has had a horrible life and may be using this new wave of freedom to create a coping mechanism.

 

Less than 50% of teens identify as straight so they don’t offend the LBGT community, but in reality the number of homosexuals remains safely at 6% of the human population or roughly 420,000,000 worldwide.

It’s a large number but relative to the population as a whole it’s quite small, and they pose no threat to the stability of the human family


Hotwater

 

Iv'e Noticed That Over The Last 12 Months Your Posts Are Becoming More And More Conservative ...........You Are Way Too

Young To Start Shutting Down Your Mind.

An Open Mind Is A Healthy Mind......



Cheers Glen.

 

Oi, another I'm getting older and more tired and cynical so the world must be changing for the worst, cant possibly be me thread

 

Somewhere between 1 - 3%, and its pretty much always been that way, and always will be.

There are not A LOT, in bold in capital letters.

You and I would have very different definitions of what a homosexual is, as with everyone else out there


The more things change the more things stay the same. You see a gay couple on Modern Family, the one thats straight actually does a better job playing the campy stereotype. What actually changes? Watch Orange is the new black and most will just assume most of them are getting their les on, on a temporary basis because they are stuck in prison with no men, they will still only believe the butch dyke is the only one thats actually a lesbian.

It works they other way too, just reinforces those stereotypes

Use words like "cisnormativity" and people will automatically categorize you in a way I doubt you would like


Its up to you to decide whether the shift in "tolerance" over the last 30/40 years has been about acceptance and a whole bunch of other wanky phrases people use to make themselves sound good.............or............what there are a lot of, are a whole lot more bisexual people out there than everyone wants to admit and they turn up to the pride parades because its a little kinky, a little naughty, tune into shows like OITNB then dream up their own little prison fantasies.

The media just gives us what we want, its not like those TV execs sit around in meetings, oh, we will do this new show, put in these new characters to combat heternormality

 

No but it may give you need ideas on what you fantasize.

 

of course tv is manipulating people. (all story telling does. books, movies, television, its the story, in any media) this isn't exactly a conspiracy in the usual sense. nor is the mechanism. it creates between the lines a set of cultural assumptions, by making the same cultural assumptions repeatedly in every context it can. story telling has always motivated perception, priorities, desires. not so much by advertising, but by the understated things in a story the hero likes, or considers tradition, or finds familiar to them. and writers do this to please audiences. and producers choose stories to sell advertising. in 'advanced' societies, most people don't think about this. corporate managers involved aren't ignorant of this process. its a kind of dishonesty by implication, but there's nothing hidden about it. the screwedupness of our cultural values are manufactured this way. its right out there in the open for anyone who bothers to notice.

even when we do notice we're still affected by it, if we expose ourselves to too much of it.

the difference with the internet is we're not the kind of captive audience the corporatocracy likes, because we can participate in creating content ourselves. much of what we create continues to repeat what they've made us familiar with. but sometimes it doesn't. that's why you get someone like trump hating and fearing the internet and its users. back before the institution of for profit media, when people told each other stories themselves, in so called 'primative' cultures, story tellers were very much aware of this. their cultures were created and perpetuated in this way. and the story teller had a responsibility to understand this.

today, when most of the story telling we're exposed to, is for profit in one sense or another, that responsibility is forgotten in favor of greed. so we end up with cultural values that are many of them, a lot of crap, as a result of this, only caring about how big an audience to sell tickets or sponser's products. but again the influence isn't directly about the products themselves, or the obvious advertising, but the cultural effects of implied traditions between the lines of the story telling itself.

(as for gender benders, 10% to 30%, always have been and always will be because its perfectly natural and normal for there to be. 1% to 3% IS living in the bubble of self deception)

 

ya know I actually agree with alot of whats on this post. Almost everything thats supposed to be useful and informational is just garbage promoting young stupidity. Back in the 1800s familys would teach their children studies and they were 30x smarter than children of this time period. The only difference is they weren't technology smart like the youth of today but instead of using it to our full advantage we waste it on making fun of everything and catfishing people from across the world.

 

what is being manipulated by the kind of stories corporate media wants people to be entertained by, is what people perceive their culture to be.
essentially they're creating 'the box' they don't want us to think beyond. and people don't.

people think science fiction is guns and cars and cities and wars in space.
no one is supposed to think about the environment is the apocalypse,
and there not being cars and cities or even guns.
or the relationship between population and resource shortages.
that none of the things that really do matter, matter at all.
species loss, spread of new kinds of diseases, mutating into newer diseases at an increasingly rapped rate,
or these things coming together to interrupt, the way we are expected to assume things are heading.

this is where culture is being manipulated statistically.
everything has to be epic. everyone, and it isn't everyone, but it doesn't take everyone, all it takes is a statistical majority,
hooked on this idea that everything has to be epic.
that every threat has to be some kind of secret conspiracy,
that the world is going to be saved from by some teenager with a gun.

so we get these terrible things that happen,
not because someone is entertained by this,
but because its the ONLY thing they see,
the ONLY way they're encouraged to 'think'.

that or its all daemons and angels,
but never that it is ourselves being taught to hate logic,
or believing that things can never be better because somehow,
have more or bigger or brighter or shinier then someone else,
is more important then having a world we can create and explore ourselves.

so of course people are smarter when they're not being dumbed down by being told everything has to be a big deal all the time,
when instead what is all the time is all the different ways you find in nature,
and you're having no one thing telling you everything in your life.
when even when they're trying to, you're seeing all the different ways things are all around all the time instead.