Donald Trump

No, but so far seems to me just changing wording to suit people's agendas.....
I will not supprt a president who wants to over turn Roe v Wade...like so many on the tv I hear saying that that is why they are voting for Trump....so let us give the govt back more power over our decisions, and like I keep saying....the righteous should worry about the 2nd ammendment , too, if they are so concerned with death...and not just about the human race...so I call bull shit on their reasonings for wanting to control the rest of the human population.

 

and until you have had it done to you......your wording changed in emails...as hackers can do this also....you will not understand the seriousness and nightmare of it at all. It was done to me. I was astute...i picked up on it and asked at the time...where is this i said....and got some dance routine...and bull shit and more bull shit and more bull shit....

 

Mr. Trump has certainly stuck his foot in his mouth on more than one occasion. I do however, love what he stands for. I am thrilled to finally have a guy who seems to understand the problems that we have been talking about for years. I am thrilled that he is neither a true republican, nor is he a democrat; he's a buinessman. I once saw a bumper sticker that said; "Republicans and Democrats. Same Shit, Different Piles." I love that the RHINOS (republicans in name only), aren't happy with him.

I am thrilled that he wants to delete Common Core; it's such a turd. I love that he is planning to do something about illegal immigration and stem the tide of radical islamic people from entering the U.S. without any desire to become Americans. We have had too many islamic terrorist attacks that have been labled workplace violence; that makes many people really angry. Mr. Trump extends support to our active military and veterans and promises them proper healthcare. Why should illegal laliens get better and faster care than our veteran's? The list goes on. I am thrilled to have this man willing to do this for us. He is a sucessful businessman. WooHoo! Who knows, maybe our economy will be revived? (It's time to stop blaming Bush.)

Hillary is so vile and corrupt I can't believe anyone with an ounce of brains supports her. I like Bernie Sanders as he seemed far more sincere, but Hillary committed election fraud to get him out of the way. (Yes, I believe Wikileaks and am greatful to have people who are willing to risk their lives to bring us the truth. Politicians have our lives in their hands; they need to be transparent.) We see recordings of the hillary campaign, and the DNC paying people to incite violence at Trump rallys. That's criminal and is exactly what Hitler's brown shirt goons were doing in the 1930's! Trump isn't Hitler; Hillary is! What has Obozo done for African Americans? What has the democratic party done for them? Nothing! They have been used for years. Enough is enough already. Vote Trump...he has created thosands of jobs. Give him a shot at it. If he doesn't perform, he'll be easy to replace in four years.

I invite all of you on both side of this to watch Infowars.com, Go on Youtube and evaluate the Wikileaks reports. Ask yourselves why the substance isn't being refuted by the Clinton machine, or the DNC? Don't take my word for it. Open your minds and your hearts and ask youselves if you want an individual to lead this country who has already sold the office of Secretary of State to the highest bidders? Hillary has sold us out!!! Do you want someone who says nice things to your face and then disrespects you after you have left? Hillary's differing public and private positions. Really? She tells the voters one thing and wall street something completely different. Haven't you had enough? I have.

Here's a place to start.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwhRrlFHMtA

R, V/S
p.s this is not russian propaganda. that whole story is another hillary deception.

 

I can understand your aggravation after having an experience like that.

But where do you get the idea that the wording in Podesta's and Clinton's emails were changed?

 

I get the idea from knowing that if it can be done to me...it certainly can be done to the big leaguers.....even more so,...my idea is just common sense.....
I cannot say it was on them and i cannot say it wasn't, either.....
I am so tired of this presidential race. It is the worst ever...the world gets more complicated .....good bye to the man and his honor days at all....It is sad....

Whatever it will be...whoever wins...i hope this election comes sooner in that the days don't keep dragging on forever anymore....whatever happens...I will just get back to my life.....
I do not have much hope for anything with this election....It is all a nightmare and bad joke.

 

Just came across this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACnLYZ9jKJI&feature=youtu.be

 

This stuff is nothing new. What's new is the technology to capture the evidence and the power of the internet to spread the word.
This is exactly what hitler's "brown shirts" did. Don't take my word for it. Research hitler's brown shirts.

Check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEQvsK5w-jY

 

The United States of America is a lofty place. It's constitution and bill of rights were born from the lofty ideas "that all men are created equal and endowwed by their creator certain inalienable rights such as life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". It took ten years for the constitution to be ratified by the original thirteen colonies...because the founding fathers didn't trust a central government.


The founding fathers and their fathers had witnessed the oppression of kings and queens, tyrants and war lords. They were determined that this new government..."of the people, by the people, and for the people would not perish from the earth." The blood of patriots was spilled to secure our country in the 1700's. Blood of patriots from both the north and south was spilled again in the 1860's. Men and women from both sides of that civil war should be honored and respected today, and for all days to come, because it was American blood. Brave men on both sides. "My eyes have seen the Glory and the commin' of the Lord..."

In the 1930's dark and diabolical forces began their bid to dominate the world. This same dark force, with different faces, exerts itself with the same goal of world domination today. America was the world's "arsenal of democracy." This nation stood as a guiding light in very dark times. Eleven million Americans wore the uniform and fought to secure the world's freedom. Millions more worked in the factories and labratories to support those in the field. Michelle Obama doesn't have enough sense, or education to be proud of the people of this era. The greatest generation is and always will be something to be proud of.

Today these dark forces manifest themselves through Hillary and her minions. This guy George Soros is also a face of the beast. They and others disrespect us. They look down on us and hold us in contempt. Reject Hillary and her corruption. Embrace the light of the values advocated by Mr. Trump and the millions of Americans who share the belief that the United States of America,, through its people's passion for liberty and sense of self determination, can throw off the shackles of mediocracy by defeating Hillary and continue to be that shining light to the world.

Now you know that the attacks on Mr. Trump have been bought and paid for by Hillary and her thugs. Reject more of her corruption. Her documented actions have proven her to be unfit to be our president.

R, V/S

 

Hello my friends and comrades. It is me, Mountain Valley Wolf. It is not some Russian person who tied up the Mountain Valley wolf while I use his computer to spread un-American propaganda talks. What would make you think such silly things. It is me---of course.

I want to tell you when you go to the voting room to vote for the Donald Trump.

I tell you this because he is only, how you say, candidate, to stand tough to the Great Putin. The Clinton candidate is the puppet and cannot speak the hard words against such a strong adversary. She will be his puppet and then she will start the next World War III.

But Trump is the great man who will make America great again and will stand up to the great Putin. But Putin is actually great guy and the Trump will make the friends to him. You will see. But not Clinton because she is the nasty woman and should be working hard in the factory and the field and the kitchen. You know the sayings---put Clinton in the gulag! But Trump will make the friends to the great Putin and you will see how wonderful the person he is.

But you say silly thing like those womens make the sexy talk about Trump, that he did sexy without the permissions. In fact, it is all lies, and those womens do not even have existence. They are only propaganda talks of the Clinton. You will see. Next week it will be the news: they will look for the womens, and they will not be anywheres. They did the vanishing tricks, because they are of the lies.

And their families too. All gone, like never existed before--like Russian poet, and other free thinker who disappeared during the glory days of the Soviet.

Then you say, Boris, I mean, Mountain Valley Wolf, the Russians hack the Clinton because they don't want her to win the President. But that is silly talks. The Russians and all the world is afraid of the Trump because he is big strong man with big hands. He will make the American motherland great again.

And with Trump (and maybe Putin help him, it would be good thing) there will be no more crime, and no more shooting of the police officer. He will make the law and order. All the criminals and the bad peoples will be locked away and the police and soldiers will be everywhere as your friend. And when the peoples walk in the streets they will, how you say, stop and frisks. And then they will find all the rapists, and murderers, and Mexicans, and the peoples who talk bad about the wonderful American government, and the other terrorists like that, and they will all be shipped to the camps. And the NATO will be gone. And the healthcare will be gone. And the Black people will not make the crime acts in their villages because they will be registered.

So don't let the Clinton win because she is the scandals and lies and all kinds of no goods and erasing the e-mails. Vote for Trump for the glory of the Motherland.

 

Yeah, we know. It's all been documented on the Hillary Clinton thread. Have you forgotten already?

 

What the heck?


I personally think this plant is so obvious it should be watered. But it's funny af too.

 

No No No No No.....


When he took the signs and held them up, he handed them back to the wrong people.

 

No kidding? I've been punked by someone on twitter? Again?

Oh well

 

This makes me realize something I've been wrong about: Straight white male privilege does exist. They are the only group who can wonder off the leftist plantation and vote for non liberal candidates and ideas, without getting lambasted and sent death threats.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMlC0-Ut8Ng

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSNnzQ9-7Ic

 

This shadow projection always amazes me about Trump supporters. It is typically accompanied by the maxim that, ‘those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it.’ And this is what makes it so scary, because it demonstrates how people can be aware of history, and usher in the exact opposite of what they are trying to prevent due to that awareness. (I am going to ignore the fact that you are fallaciously connecting the more liberal and progressive of the candidates with fascism which is a far right ideology.)

Dictators throughout history have been very consistent in terms of their personality make up, and their leadership style, and in the rhetoric they use to gain popularity and rile up the people to put them into power. They always have a strong nationalist stance, and promise to make the country great again, to make the empire strong again. They are very consistently narcissistic, xenophobic, and use race, religion, or national origin as a scapegoat to instill fear and create a need for their get tough policies, and the limitations they propose on personal liberties. And they do talk tough, do not leave room for compromise, and when they come to power, they keep their word on such matters. This is repeated over and over in every dictatorial rise to power. I dare you to point out a case that is different.

In the case of Trump, we do not have to look at any leaked e-mails, or secret video tapes, we don’t have to follow conspiracy websites, or listen to people of dubious political intent, or even align ourselves with any party ideologies. We don’t even have to listen to allegations of what they must have done, but which, even after numerous Senate investigations, nothing has been proven.

All we have to do is look at what he says, and how he acts in front of large audiences and National TV. There is no denying what he says (even though he has repeatedly said things like ‘I didn’t say that,’ when everyone already knows that, yes, he did say that. After all, his daughter recently told reporters, ‘with my dad there is no hidden agenda, or secret meanings. What you see is what you get.’

On leadership style, a lot of presidential candidates have shared that they look up to Abraham Lincoln or George Washington. Bill Clinton, and I think Obama as well, were influenced by Kennedy. I think we all know the numerous leaders that Trump said he admires---all of which are or where our enemy, and all of which were totalitarian dictators.

In North Korea, guess who the only person is that can keep the law and order, according to himself. Every dictator legitimizes his power by being the only one that can get the job done---not the better one, the only one. They also believe that they are the smartest, and the very best at whatever they do. In his acceptance speech Trump told us that he is ‘the’ law and order candidate, and only he can bring back law and order. He has bragged about how rich he is, and tells us he is so smart he doesn’t need advisors, and that he is smarter than all of the generals.

And how about law and order---he plans to implement a nationwide stop and frisk policy---something that has already been stopped because it was determined that it was 1.) unconstitutional, and 2.) racist in that it unfairly targets minority groups. In fact, his whole premise is already racist in that it is his response to fighting crime in the African-American neighborhoods. And when you get down to it, how many stories of a free and democratic society involve police and military types stopping random people, demanding to see their papers, and frisking them? We’ll come back to the issue of constitutional rights.

Ducks? Ducks are like Hitler’s Brownshirts, i.e. the Storm Troopers? Seriously?

This is funny, because the very first thing I thought of while watching the very first Trump rally----was Mussolini’s Blackshirts (which was the inspiration for calling the Sturmabteilung, the Brownshirts). In fact, I think you can probably see me writing about that in some of my very first posts in this thread. I certainly wrote about it on Facebook.

What made me think of Trump supporters as Blackshirts was their violent and aggressive behavior. And Trump was egging them on. Saying things like ‘…in the old days he would have been brought out in a stretcher.’ He even guaranteed to pay the legal costs for anyone who got into trouble hurting one of the protesters. It has been well recorded on National TV how his rallies are really just big shows, with very little content, but quite a bit of the show involves ridiculing protestors that show up, and then getting them removed. This has included an African-American or two who actually supported Trump, but were ridiculed and removed because of the color of their skin.

The problem with the Ducks was not that they were intimidating Trump followers. They were not, they were only making a statement (and the only problem is that it involved ethics issues and campaign law. But a Trump supporter can’t really complain about that since Trump has repeatedly broken campaign laws). In fact, in your video tape, it was reported that the Ducks needed to bring along protection----not because they were roughing people up, but because Trump supporters were roughing them up!

(I am curious if you made the connection between the Brownshirts and these ducks or is this a ‘thing’ by Trump supporters. Because I am sure that I am not the only one to compare Trump supporters at rallies with Brownshirts.)

Now there are rumors of Trump supporters showing up at polling places to intimidate Clinton voters. I hope that is not true, because that is just one more precedent of destroying our democracy and the whole electoral process.

Trump is already damaging the US electoral process by claiming that it is rigged. And then there is the suggestion, by Trump, that he will only honor the results if he wins. This is how far too many dictators come to power----claiming the election is rigged, and then staging a coup when it doesn’t go in their favor. No US presidential candidate has ever done such a thing to undermine democracy.

Often the election, or the coup, as the case may be, is followed by jailing the dictator’s opponents. That is why it was very disconcerting for Donald to say in the debate that if he was president, she would be in jail. And that is not to mention his continuous accusations, and the chanting for Hillary to be imprisoned at his rallies. There is no denying that Trump has broken quite a few laws himself (he has even admitted to breaking laws----even in the presidential debates). But you don’t hear Hillary demanding that he should be jailed----that is for the courts to determine.

He will also remove all the generals, he says, and bring in new ones. In a dictatorship, this is referred to as a purge. Just like, law and order, a strong military is also very important to dictators, and they have no qualms about threatening to use that strength. This is another reason why it is disconcerting to hear him talk so candidly about using nuclear weapons. Then, of course, like most dictators, he sees himself as a genius military strategist, and brags about how effectively and quickly he could deal with Isis. (Sure, any candidate would talk about how much more effective they would be at removing an enemy, but serious candidates always have a more realistic stance on such matters.)

Then there is the issue he has with constitutional rights. Dictators typically use fear, especially the fear of outside threats, and also commonly a domestic threat that is connected to a specific race, ethnicity, or religion, as an excuse to limit the civil rights of that nation’s people. Crime is also another area of fear that is exploited by such leaders. In the case of Trump, he is following their examples----using terrorism, the threat of immigrants, and crime, especially black-on-black crime to limit our constitutional rights. This became apparent after the recent bombing incident in New York. It was then that he first attacked the press, saying it gave too much information to the terrorists. Then when the suspect was caught he lamented on how he would be given the best attorneys and spoke out against due process for terrorists. It was during this same time that he brought up the stop and frisk policy to combat inner city crime. Another scary side to all of this is the fact that Bush’s Patriot Act has a very broad and purposely vague definition of terrorism, making just about anyone of us open to the label and charges of a terrorist. Since then his attacks against the freedom of speech of the media and the press has become a part of his narrative on his accusations of a rigged election.

He accuses Clinton of wanting to take away our 2nd Amendment rights, a charge she outright denies. But it has become apparent that he wants to limit and/or take away our 1st, 4th, 5th, and 6thAmendment rights. This is not something Clinton is accusing him of doing, but rather it is direct from his mouth.

Coincidentally, as I write this, there is a commercial for Trump on TV talking about the increase in violence in our nation. It says that we need a ‘powerful’ leader---like Trump.

I could continue, but I won’t. It is very scary how Trump fits the profile of a dictator so closely. Clinton may also have broken the law, she has some unethical skeletons in her closet, and there are questions surrounding her as president. But I dare anyone to find a dictator that she just as closely fits the profile of, based on her speeches, her policies, and the persona she shows to the public.

Every dictator in Modern history has clearly stated his intentions, and used fear and intimidation to get people to follow him. There has never been a bait and switch rise to power where they come in all soft and friendly, and speak of cooperation and compromise, only to switch to being tough, biased, and oppressive after taking control. Instead they always rise to power on how strong and powerful they are, and the people----for whatever crazy reason----think that very strength and power is the answer to their problems.


I’m sure you don’t realize it, but this right here mirrors so closely the praises surrounding Mussolini during his rise to power:

Mussolini believed that fascism, because the State embodied a spiritual purity, was the only true way for the people to experience true liberty and achieve self-determination. Democracy only provided the illusion of individuality and left man with nothing more than a weak mediocrity, where nothing was really achieved.

 

A sad and scary postscript to my last post.

There is a video out now with Trump saying, "You've got to go out, and you've got to get everyone you know, and you've got to go watch your polling booths. I hear too many bad stories, and we can't lose an election because of, you know what I'm talking about."

According to the Huffington Post, one Trump supporter in Ohio in speaking about what he will do at the Polling Booths said, "Well, it's called racial profiling. Mexicans. Syrians. People who can't speak American. I'm going to go right up behind them. ...I want to see if they're accountable. ...I'm going to make them a little bit nervous."


Perhaps I will wear my Arab head scarf when I go vote this year...