Will Trump Supporters Listen To The Warnings?

So you do think he's doing something then? I'm so confused.

 

What are you confused about?

Doing, and doing the right thing are two different things. Does that help?

 

What an annoying, assinine thing to say. I am tired of people who think they have all of the answers and know it all....
You cannot have it both ways...Competition?

Ok, then.....let's go back to days of yore and let's see who is the fittest to survive....and take over kingdoms and become king through warfare and strength......like the animals in the jungle....strongest lion takes all the females in the pride....we have the competition then....

Enough for all does not work in this scenario...so MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Democrats want it all...REALLY?????

yeah, I want a more caring planet....a leader who cares about the environment and all of the life on the planet...the air, the water, the forests......yes, I do want it all....here.

Trump....what a joke...i have more respect for someone who came from nothing and made something of himself or herself then someone who was already born with a silver spoon in their mouth...some competition!
Give me a break!

Trump and his billionaire cronies want it all, and they will take it all, believe me..

 

Not to mention the irony of someone advocating failed economic policies from the 80s in which the rich get richer by grabbing everything they possibly can and justifying it with the lie that it will all trickle down one day..then accusing the left of wanting it all. LOL

I dont want it all, i just want to live in a country that doesnt benefit the rich at the expense of the poor, a country where we take pride in our natural beauty and work hard to protect it, where education is accessible and our workforce stays competitive with the rest of the world..speaking of competition. And a country where people dont have to worry about healthcare and the threat of dying simply because their employers dont offer insurance. Simple things

 

Reminds me of those cartoons...and so many of them that used to come out....guy on top stepping all over people to be on top....so it was a a big line of people on top of someone else's head, going all the way up........and person underneath it all crushed by weight of so many...ok, then...that is the way they want to play it. I'm game!
I am that angry right about now.

and then don't forget to spout out your religion on your way up and treating others the way you want to be treated....

 

Stopped reading at silver spoon. You weren't hard to figure out.

 

Calm down folks, everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Seriously, why the hostility here? It's so useless in these forums. Save it for the comment sections on news sites if you need to blow off steam. All it does here is create unnecessary strife.

 

and neither were you.

 

Gee, he's a real genius! All that narcissism, nepotism, early morning twitterism, Obama is spying on me-ism, etc., and the apparently failed legislative effort on healthcare is just a diversion to keep us occupied while he pursues his brilliant dismantling of Obama's "edicts".. I hope you're right, because with the Syrian gas attack and North Korea's stepped up nuclear program. things are heating up in the international arena, and unless Jared and Ivaka have foreign policy smarts that they've been keeping from us it looks like a rocky road ahead.

 

I was teasing you, Moonglow. Silver spoon is almost the whole comment.

 

yeah, but some opinions are just fucking stupid moronic asinine lunacy with no bearing on actual reality.

 

Yeah this is the dumbest thing to fight over. It is one of the oldest tricks on the book. Divide and conquer. This is a dialectic that has been in place for way too long. Let's rise above it.

 

Always with the negative waves Moriarty.

 

Ok while the general approval rating for the Trump Admin is hovering at the lowest level for any President at this time in recent times

His base still seems to think he is doing a fine job

The question is why is there this continued belief in this man when he seems to have fallen down at virtually every hurdle?

Let’s look at one thing

Is he a deal maker – NO

Making silly insulting or making toothless threats at people you will need to work with is not the way to make deals – do the base think it clever, being tough or sticking a finger up at the ‘establishment’ – if so fine but it’s not the way to get a deal.

But I wonder if the story going down with the base is that Trump wants to get things done but is being blocked by the establishment and so the answer is that those checks on ‘their guy’ need to be dropped.

I mean how can Trump get things done with all that oversight, so let’s get rid of it – how can he work when the judges stop things been done, so let’s get rid of them - why can’t his Executive Orders just be made laws, so let’s do that.

What are the lessons been learnt

 

Puff

Well going on what was said on this forum and from other places (news media) many were critical of Obama.

But as I’ve pointed out many times the Democratic Party at the time of Clinton up to Obama wa not left wing it was right of centre liberal.

What were ‘they’ unmoved by?

What were ’they’ unwilling to listen to?

I’ve been shouting about the ill effects of neo-liberalism from the 1980’s and here since 2001 – the problem is that many Americans voted against their own financial self interests for years

I really don’t know what you are talking about – are you?

 

Balbus, they just want to keep hating on the left and blaming the left at no matter what cost, so i doubt that trump supporters will ever change their minds....What did I read only 2% of them regret voting for him.....so I gave up debating or trying....It is clear they are stuck in their own mind sets, biases and hatreds, forever...

 

Moonglow

There does seem to be a bunker mentality that seems to be shielding them from events going on outside but maybe if something really big happened (a MOAB type event) it might get through.

The thing is what would they do then? I mean if they become disillusioned with Trump, who do they turn to then? I mean they thought they’d sent a wrecking ball to Washington to bring low the ‘government’ and humiliate the ‘establishment’

But the establishment in the US is to a large extent about moneyed interests and Trump was always part of that and what is the ‘government’ well its operating system is the US constitution (for good or ill) and that was set up to have checks and balances on power.

I worry about what lessons are been leant by the disaffected right from the Trump presidency?

 

Just a few musings to add to above

I should point out it is not just the disaffected right I’m worried about but also the disillusioned left.

Trump seemed to be surprised that there are differing factions within the Republican Party (as there are in the Democratic) and I think many other Americans were also surprised by this, and I’ve certainly had to explain it to some who have come here. Its one of the problems with having a two party system.

The thing is that I think many people are ill informed about how the political system actually works in the US, they may know the bullet points – the Constitution, bill of Rights, House of Representatives, Senate, presidency, the three branches etc.

But I’m not sure if people understand ‘politics’ for example I’ve meet many here that seem to see the US Constitution as some kind of sacred text handed down by the ‘founding father’ prophets, when it really was a political deal full of compromises and backroom dealings, thrown together by some political hacks that mainly came from the richer sections of society and reflected their interests and concerns.

I think some look upon ‘government’ and think it should just ‘do things’ they want and think it ‘broken’ when it just doesn’t deliver – but not knowing that real politics is often about wheeler dealing and compromise leading to consensus they vote for ideological driven hardliners to ‘do thinks’ but hardliners are not into compromise or consensus and are much more likely to bring the system to breaking point or stalemate or worse push through ideological policies that have not been scrutinized properly and have little relation to reality or the sensible.

 

Trump still insists that Obama wiretapped his phones, though there's no evidence.
Trump supporters are probably saying, "Lock him up!"

Trump has invited Philippine dictator Rodrigo Duterte to visit the White House.
Trump supporters are probably saying, "This Duterte fella must not be so bad after all!"

 

Trump also said he would be honored to meet Kim Jong Un.

Could he be so out of touch and ignorant he doesnt actually know what life is like for North Koreans under his rule? Or does he truly admire that kind of leadership?

The conundrum of trump, is he evil or just really that stupid?

 

Speaking of North Korea, how can Antifa be so out of touch and ignorant tobe toting a North Korean flag at one of their rallies?



I guess I finally found the missing link between Trump supporters and Antifa.

 

I think trump is pretty dumb. Did he actually graduate from high school? Did he buy is way into Wharton?