The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. egger

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    Trump demonized Hillary for giving a talk at Goldman Sachs.

    Other administrations have had Goldman Sachs people, but the Trump administration is peppered with them early in the term.

    Goldman Sachs people in the Trump administration.



    The People From ‘Government Sachs’
    By Dealbook
    March 16, 2017

    The People From ‘Government Sachs’

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    "Stephen K. Bannon, chief strategist to the president and a former Goldman banker

    Mr. Bannon is most closely associated with Breitbart News, the website that helped become an outlet for his right-wing, populist outlook that is suspicious of the established corporate and government elite.

    But he was a Goldman Sachs mergers and acquisitions banker in the 1980s before he left to start his own boutique investment firm. There, he advised on a deal for the production company behind “Seinfeld,” and is said to have been paid for his services via cash as well as a share of the show’s profits.
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    Gary D. Cohn, director of the National Economic Council and Goldman Sachs president

    Economic policy making will be influenced by the experiences of some key Goldman alumni in the Trump administration.

    Mr. Cohn, a longtime second-in-command at Goldman Sachs, is now overseeing economic policy in the White House as director of the National Economic Council.

    Steven T. Mnuchin, Treasury secretary and Goldman partner

    Mr. Mnuchin, a financier with deep roots on Wall Street and in Hollywood but with no previous government experience, was the national finance chairman for Mr. Trump’s campaign. After leaving Goldman, he created his own hedge fund, moved to the West Coast and bankrolled hits like the “X-Men” franchise and “Avatar.”

    James Donovan, nominee for deputy Treasury secretary and Goldman partner

    Mr. Mnuchin’s pick to be his deputy also comes from Goldman Sachs. If confirmed, Mr. Donovan will play a substantial role in shaping some of the Trump administration’s biggest fiscal priorities, such as overhauling the tax code. Mr. Donovan has spent nearly 25 years at Goldman, where he worked with companies and individuals both as an investment banking adviser and as an investment management overseer.

    Dina Powell, deputy national security adviser for strategy and longtime Goldman executive

    Ms. Powell, who had been a senior counselor to the president, was named a deputy national security adviser for strategy this week. Although she does not have extensive experience on national security issues, Ms. Powell has spent 15 years in government.

    Ms. Powell was recently the president of the Goldman Sachs Foundation. During her years at Goldman Sachs, she worked closely with Mr. Cohn."
     
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  2. Okiefreak

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    Staged for public consumption, of course. Got to get those approval ratings up for the Demagogue in Chief! Divide and Conquer!
     
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  3. Noserider

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    Why not? It's worked so far.

    Imagine if we didn't have any labels for politics? Holy shit, people would have to vote based on issues and not "my side vs. your side."
     
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  4. egger

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    Trump continues with his distratctions and ego battle by trying to bully the NFL with a confusing statement.


    NFL owners to mull anthem rules as Trump ups protest criticism
    Reuters Staff
    October 10, 2017 / 6:32 AM

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nfl-anthem/nfl-owners-to-mull-anthem-rules-as-trump-ups-protest-criticism-idUSKBN1CF15W

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    "“Why is the NFL getting massive tax breaks while at the same time disrespecting our Anthem, Flag and Country? Change tax law!” Trump wrote on Twitter on Tuesday.

    What Trump was demanding was unclear since the NFL has given up its tax-exempt status. The White House did not reply to requests for comment. "
     
  5. egger

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    Trump still has a grudge against the NFL stemming from his failed investment in the USFL in the 1980's. He's known to carry on grudges for decades, including the one about his small hands that he has been battling with someone at Vanity Fair magazine for over 20 years.


    Donald Trump Fought the NFL Once Before and Got Crushed
    By David Z. Morris
    September 25, 2017

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/25/donald-trump-fought-nfl-once-he-got-crushed

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    "President Donald Trump set off a firestorm last Friday when he urged NFL owners to fire players who used the national anthem as an opportunity for protest. He doubled down Sunday morning, suggesting a boycott of the NFL. Team owners have been quick to line up against Trump and support their players.

    This isn’t the first time Trump has picked a fight with the NFL. And last time around, he lost spectacularly.

    But it wasn’t enough for Trump. He pushed hard to shift the USFL to a fall schedule, where the USFL—with less talent and less public awareness—would go head-to-head with the bigger league.

    The decision to switch to fall play immediately crippled several USFL teams, who wouldn’t be able to compete directly with local NFL teams. The league even turned down a lifeline in the form of lucrative TV offers to broadcast spring games.

    But Trump’s plan was typically audacious and risky. Rather than organically grow a new league, he hoped to force an immediate merger with the NFL, which would provide huge returns for surviving USFL team owners. That goal hinged in part on an antitrust lawsuit alleging the NFL was an unlawful monopoly.

    But things didn’t go Trump’s way. While the USFL technically won the antitrust case, the jury concluded mismanagement was mostly at fault for its problems. There was no merger and no buyouts. By 1986, the USFL was finished."
     
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  6. 6-eyed shaman

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    Yes, it'd be nice to do away with labels and parties. It would make people take more time to look at the issues rather than allow "my side" to make the decisions for them.
     
  7. egger

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    Trump remarks from April 2016 when he said he will be disciplined and presidential.


    Show's Over? Trump Pledges To Be 'So Presidential You Will Be So Bored'
    April 21, 2016 12:48 PM ET

    http://www.npr.org/2016/04/21/475126907/shows-over-trump-pledges-to-be-so-presidential-you-will-be-so-bored

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    ""The campaign is evolving and transitioning, and so am I," he told the Wall Street Journal. "I'll be more effective and more disciplined."

    Trump put it another way during a Thursday morning appearance on NBC's Today Show. "I will be so presidential," he said, "you will be so bored. You'll say, 'Can't he have a little more energy?'""
     
  8. Noserider

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    Agreed. Unfortunately, American voters aren't ready to do their own thinking.
     
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  9. ZendalinRose

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    well according to ignorant urban myth, small hands = small pecker

    meanwhile while these redneck dumbfucks whine and cry over taking a knee, their girlfriends wear an American flag halter top and they patch their jeans with an American flag remnant or use it to adorn their abode,etc.,etc.,etc. (all of which are actual violations of law) the Trumpster wants to push new tax laws and other bullshit that fucks the working redneck in the ass without even so much as a dab of Vaseline or a reach around...LOL

    he is quite the accomplished fiddle player, isn't he?
    when did the world become so fucking stupid??????
     
  10. Asmodean

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    Be the change you want to see in the world.

    :)
     
  11. Asmodean

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    Well, I first feel like saying the obvious: The USA is not the whole world (which is a good thing)
    But to answer your question: history seems to show this kind of stupidity is not that new :p (and :()
     
  12. Balbus

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    The problem I find with this is the only ones that don’t want to be labelled are the ones trying to promote ‘their side’ views without been called out on it.

    It is something some right wing libertarians have tried here from time to time claiming they are not of the left or right or saying they are socially left but fiscally right. The thing was that only a small amount of examination of their ideas revelled they were views were ALWAYS right-wing.

    So I get suspicious of people that say they don’t want to be label and seem to find they always really need to be to warn other of the deceit they are trying to pull.

    I’m a proud leftie I wouldn’t pretend not to be - why would I?

    As to my side vs your side What are the views of each side on a particular issue if they are being honest the right are going to have a different view from those on the left, there might be different shades but there is going to be fundamental differences that should be highlighted (labelled if you wish).

    The problem comes when people are dishonest for example the ‘right’ getting elected for example claiming to want to bring in universal healthcare for all which then tried to bring in bills to drastically reduce healthcare.
     
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  13. Moonglow181

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    ^and therein lies the problem...My side beat the shit out of your side...hahahahaha......They have trump no matter what he does...It is better than Hillary.

    right, sure.

    Things will never change, as far as i can see.
     
  14. Noserider

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    I can't speak for Shaman, but I think you misunderstood the point I was trying to make.

    I wasn't speaking of the voter not being labeled, but rather, what they are voting on. It's the idea that 200 million American voters' political views can fall into only one of two camps. I find that preposterous.

    People vote for candidates and the label attached to them and not for actual issues. Most people don't even understand the political ideologies they attach themselves to. Trump's election proves this. He prefers executive orders to actually working with congress and he is prepared to burden tax payers with the cost of his wall; he's been married three times, cheated on two of his wives and has been accused of abuse by his first wife; he avoided military service and has been vague about his religious views. There is nothing--politically, socially, fiscally or even personally--conservative about him and yet, he has conservative support.

    Why? I think because he has the conservative label. People voted for him to spite the left; people voted for him because they hated Clinton; people voted for him simply because he was the Republicans' nominee.

    But if you actually have conservative values, and you look, not at the label, but at Trump himself and his stances on issues, you'd see he is absolutely not conservative.

    Trump didn't win the election; the label won.
     
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  15. Moonglow181

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    Link to New York Times article about Eminem lashing out at Trump...and to see rap video, you will need to click on the link....I don't even like rap that much, but way to go Eminem!. Awesome....

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/11/arts/music/eminem-donald-trump-bet.html

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    The rapper Eminem struck out at President Trump in a video that played at the BET Hip Hop Awards on Tuesday, accusing the president of racism, hypocrisy, disrespect of military veterans and more in almost five minutes of furious freestyle rap.
    He also excoriated Mr. Trump for his responses to the recent violence in Charlottesville, Va., the devastation in Puerto Rico from Hurricane Maria and the mass shooting in Las Vegas.
    The video, titled “The Storm,” was filmed in Detroit as part of the BET Hip Hop Awards’ traditional cyphers, in which rappers typically aim to deliver showy verses in a group setting. In his solo appearance, Eminem, wearing a dark hooded sweatshirt and baseball cap, name-drops Colin Kaepernick (“This is for Colin/ball up a fist”), Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Stephen K. Bannon. Throughout, he alludes to an array of Mr. Trump’s political clashes, including a reference to Senator John McCain (“Unless you’re a P.O.W. who’s tortured and battered/’cause to him you’re zeroes/’cause he don’t like his war heroes captured.”)


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    Mr. Kaepernick expressed his support on Twitter with a raised fist emoji.

    I appreciate you @Eminempic.twitter.com/nwavBwsOkQ
    — Colin Kaepernick (@Kaepernick7) Oct. 11, 2017
    Eminem also ripped into his fans who are Trump supporters.
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    “And any fan of mine/who’s a supporter of his/I’m drawing in the sand a line/you’re either for or against/and if you can’t decide/who you like more and you’re split/on who you should stand beside/I’ll do it for you with this,” he raps, before giving the middle finger to the camera."
     
  16. egger

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    Rap is known for its vulgarness. But then again, so is Trump.

    Now Trump will feel obligated to go on a twitter rage against Eminem and the rap community, just like he launched an ego jousting match against the NFL to try to enact rules to force player to stand during the anthem; insinuating that the broadcasting license of NBC should be taken away because it said something critical about his nuclear weapons remarks; challenging Tillerson to an IQ test after he referred to Trump as a moron; and so on.
     
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    NBC nightly News reported tonight that in a top secret meeting he "stunned" many of those in attendance by talking about raising the Nuclear Arsenal from the 4,000 ICBM's to over 32,000--the peak in the 1960's. It had to be explained to him that there are budget constraints and all kinds of treaties (I guess I'm pretty smart because even I knew that...). This immediately preceded the Secretary of State calling him a moron. and so forth---old news, but now he is threatening to pull the license of NBC for reporting on this, which is stupid because the only license they have is individually at each network or affiliate station allowing them to broadcast over the airwaves---and even if it was revoked which is incredibly unlikely and stupid on his part to think that he can do that, they would still be able to broadcast freely over cable, the internet, websites, twitter, and so forth.

    NBC could only get in trouble if it was proven beyond a doubt to the FCC that they deliberately fabricated fake news, but this story was, according to them, provided by reliable sources, 3 of whom were in the actual meeting.

    About 10 minutes later, NBC Nightly News also reported that against the advice of his top advisors, Trump is expected to anounce that he will decertify the Iran Nuclear Deal. Also England's Prime Minister and other allies are telling Trump that he will only weaken the deal and that it is a signal to North Korea to not even waste time negotiating with the US.

    I guess they are pacing the news so as not to lump too much Trump stupidity into one segement...
     
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  18. egger

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    This would be an opportune moment for Trump to have another rally like he did in Arizona prior to pardoning Arpaio for the sake of serving up stupidity to the public in time-release capsules.

    This time Trump needs to make sure to have a PR agent who arranges the next rally at a venue such that there are no empty spaces remaining or he might have to fire him too like he did George Gigicos.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-28/trump-is-said-to-punish-longtime-aide-after-angry-phoenix-speech
     
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  19. 6-eyed shaman

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    Eminem also ripped into his fans who are Trump supporters.
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    “And any fan of mine/who’s a supporter of his/I’m drawing in the sand a line/you’re either for or against/and if you can’t decide/who you like more and you’re split/on who you should stand beside/I’ll do it for you with this,” he raps, before giving the middle finger to the camera."






    Poor Eminem. He used to be so counterculture and politically incorrect.

    Now he's just pushing the same talking points pushed the same dominant culture.

    You can't be the counterculture and the dominant culture.
     
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  20. 6-eyed shaman

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    While I'll admit I've been more critical of the left than the right, my post history on here does criticize the right. Mostly the establishment neocon right.

    However I'm not so sure I've ever seen you criticize the left. You seem to agree with what the majority of it says nearly 100% of the time. Do you hold any viewpoints that are widely unpopular with the left in any way?
     
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