Whats your position on flag burning?

almost, but you do need something physical to burn it in any physical sense.

no, i'm not for burning the flag of any nation. but i'm not for punishing anyone for doing so either.

 

yah! this is so absolutley correct, i want to cry for how wonderful it is that someone actually gets it.

i don't think its accompleshed by burning anything. feel free to do so or not as you see fit. but real local communities of real people are what i can feel part of and take pride in or not. i think there are real communities of real people, internationally on the internet too. more so then any nation or corporation. i don't know if we have one here. but many (non-economic) interest groups form such real communities.

 

It doesn't really affect me personally. If a flag is being burned it was probably a see through cheapie anyway. Other than that it's just a flag. Not going to get upset if someone doesn't like Australia or Poland or Germany or the Netherlands or wherever else I'm made up from. It's a flag and it blows in the wind. Ain't like there ain't another million flags ready to be sold at your local tourist shop

 

I debated this in my sociology class.

I believe that flag burning should definitely be legal for a few reasons.

• Freedom of speech.
  -It is just a way of expression, like cross burning and bible burning. It is controversial, but legal, there is no slander, so is not against our constitution.
• Not hurting anyone.
  -Causes no one harm, sure it may offend but no one is in real danger.
• If we can have a law, but pick and choose our exceptions, what else could we choose from?
  -I believe if you are going to write a set a rules, strictly follow them. Like gay rights, it's nothing against the law but it is still illegal to get married in certain states. That makes no sense to me. Both that and flag burning should me legal.

 

somewhere a long way back and out of the way. i wouldn't call it sacrilege, because i don't believe in worshiping nations and their flags.

do flags deserve to be burned? probably.

is doing so likely to accomplish very much? probably not.

 

Flag represents the politics of your country, not the earth you walk on..
If one thinks he can put meaning to burning the flag, then sure, burn it..

 

If people stopped reacting so strongly then people would stop doing it.

 

Many don't realize that burning a flag is the proper way to retire it once it's been tattered and worn.

 

But then, that's the whole purpose of such a demonstration, to piss people off. To get a reaction. What I find chuckle-worthy is that without the freedoms enshrined (not created) within the constitution, such a protest might bring serious punishment, even execution. Those who fry the US flag can only do so because the US exists.

In other places within this thread I've read laments about nations and borders, as if we should just do away with them. To what result I wonder. It seems to me that it could have humanity backsliding to feudal kingdoms again. We're actually very close to that now with the wealth gap enjoyed by so many fat cats all over the world.

 

Totally against it! If you burn the flag, you should leave the country! I hate that people on US soil even go there without repercussion. I haven't done the research yet, but I think that in most countries, at minimum, you get your ass whooped for doing that shit.

 

If I bought it I can burn it just fine without risking any shit from official instances. As long as it riles fellow countrymen up to the point they do declarations in public/on the internet like Eric! above me I see purpose in burning flags in public

 

I'm against it, but I'm totally for anthem kneeling. I feel like this country (the United States) has lots of great aspects, my freedom and civil liberties among them, and I don't like seeing the symbol of that messed with. I had a friend though who used to talk about flag burning like it was something really cool. I don't think he understood what he was talking about. He was really into punk rock and was angry any time you wanted to bring up the conservative side of an issue. This was before I took sociology and began to understand the liberal side of a given issue, so I guess I was pushing his buttons. We were like 17 years old! Who knew anything back then? I don't know... Anyway, I never could quite understand what the symbolism was of burning the flag. I don't know if he ever did that in reality. But to me the meaning of it is counter intuitive. It's like burning away the freedoms that you have or something.

 

All of this is making me laugh. Here in the UK, front door mats in the pattern of the union flag are quite popular and seen as a sign that the owners of the house are patriotic to our country. A friend of ours had guests from America and they were horrified at the though of even stepping on the flag, let alone use it to clean the mud off their boots. The visitors spent 2 weeks jumping over the doormat every time they entered or left the house. Particularly amusing to watch their 82 year old gran-mother. LOL

 

It's not. It's more like ultimately utilizing said freedoms. As you said you don't really understand the meaning

edit: @soulcompromise

 

Kind of like Neo-Nazi demonstrations.

 

I am usually reclining on my chaise longue when I do my flag burning

 

I guess. But I don't take them seriously. They don't have the numbers and totally lack the support they'd need to be anything other than a nuisance, and a small one at that. What I don't see these days are the kind we had in the 80s who seemed like they had some kind of backing. Unlike the skinheads, who were basically small gangs of losers who financed their actions with a list of crimes, the Neo-Nazis appeared to be educated and connected.

But eventually those connections faded away as being associated with them became a serious hazard to business. Can you imagine being a CEO and having one of your checks to such a group made public? These days it's not the right-leaning assholes who have the resources, it's the hard left. And they're rather blatant about it, but still maintain a layer of insulation in the form of layers of "foundations" and the like.

There's so much money available to people who call themselves communists, anarchists and protesters that I can't help but wonder if they realize they're being played by simple capitalists who are trying to make life difficult for other capitalists. A true anarchist doesn't take the side of any political party, they attack them all (usually by covert and cowardly tactics that are designed to terrify common citizens).

Even the communists are getting their bread buttered by corporate and party interests. But I guess that's the only way they can get their message out to a larger audience. After all, you can't make a buck with communism!

 

Motives matter.

 

Unless you're retiring a torn, tattered and damaged flag, I think it's bullshit.

This might sound stupid, but the fact that the flag represents the freedom to burn it means you shouldn't. It represents ideals that are greater than even God gave us. The injustices in this country are deplorable, but that flag doesn't represent our reality: it represents our ideals.

And it's our ideals that are special, sacred, and worth fighting for. No matter what you're protesting, burning our flag is bullshit in my opinion. Because that flag represents the opposition to whatever you're protesting.

 

The US ''culture'' has a lot of symbolism that could be considered ''sacred,'' so it seems disrespectful to burn the flag, because it symbolizes a lot of work that our ancestors went through to give Americans many freedoms.