Whats your position on flag burning?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by cannabis cam, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I didn't see this until several hours later, clearly. But you're right. It's possible that I just don't understand. But especially from a 17 year old. It just doesn't seem right. He was my friend, and I still couldn't see it.

    I guess I could see at a protest or something, but I think that's just asking for trouble to be honest. It's like you've forsaken your country and everything that comes with it when you do that. Just my opinion.

    As far as the freedom to do it, I believe there may be a law that says you mustn't desecrate this or that. But if it's your property it's probably a non-issue.
     
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  2. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    As Americans our overall culture can be hard to pin down. I assume that's why you have it in quotes. With such a diverse population the US has become more of a cultural than a racial melting pot. Americans represent every nation on earth to some degree, which is what makes anti-American sentiment so absurd.

    But you capture the essence of the flag rather well, it represents freedom. Freedom was written in from the beginning. But of course, the direction of the new nation didn't snap into place overnight. It took nearly 80 years for the US to abolish slavery, a relic from British rule. The country was basically bankrupt by the time the British were defeated and sent packing.

    This made it vulnerable and as a result conflicts began almost immediately. But so too did the process of cultural unification begin. Of course we as Americans never came into a single, catch-all culture like so many other nations celebrate to this day. It's no surprise considering how new our nation still is. But in that short time we have accomplished feats that advanced all of humanity.

    When I see people burning the US flag, I can't help but think "is that all you got". It's such a childish gesture that I can't take it very seriously. Maybe that's the value of free speech and free expression. When I see fellow Americans doing it, I accept it as their right, though I still think it's petty on its face. Keep in mind though that if an American burns a Mexican flag or a pan African flag, they will be lamented as "racists" and condemned for their lack of compassion.

    So while we Americans are protected from our own government's wrath against our words, we still pay a price in the court of national opinion. But oddly, torching an American flag doesn't seem to draw the same concern. Is it a double-standard at play? Or do Americans simply "deserve" to be openly hated?
     
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  3. Scratched

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    I consider the public display of burning the American flag as a juvenile, lame ass way to get attention and stir up hatred.
    The fuckers live here. If they hate America that much they would leave. But they won't. Why? Because we are the only free nation that gives them everything they need to survive, and prosper more than any other country.
    It's just a show of decadence, of rubbish, and childishness or sometimes racism.
    I think it would be funny to catch some idiot doing this, walk up and light their pants on fire. May as well put some entertainment value into it.
     
  4. Kerri

    Kerri Members

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    I agree with the Supreme Court in Texas v Johnson that burning the flag should be protected under the auspices of the first amendment.

    Those that don’t like that are free not to like it, protest against flag burning and respect their own flags however they see fit
     
  5. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    While entertaining, that particular punishment has already been reserved for liars!
     
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  6. Scratched

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    Yes, but to me reaping the benefits of a country you burn the very flag of in public in denouncing your country, yet staying here is lying to everyone and themselves.

    Just the way I feel.
     
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  7. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    I recall seeing an meme of a before an after photo. It showed a radical lighting the American flag on fire in the before photo. In the after photo it shows the flames going awry and he lit himself on fire.
     
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  8. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    Flag is cloth

    Declaration/Constitution is rad.

    Interpretation of Declaration/Constitution is flawed
     
  9. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Flag burning isn't offensive to me.
    Burn it! Burn everything!
     
  10. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    it's a fucking colored piece of fabric. i can't wrap my head around how so many people can worship the thing. don't even get me started on the people that throw tantrums every time an athlete doesn't stand for the anthem. i have a friend who always screams at them to leave the country. the same fucker won't even move two states over to be where his kids are.
     
  11. IAmMaxieHearMeRoar

    IAmMaxieHearMeRoar Maxie Lee Courtland-Colton

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    A flag is just a piece of cloth
     
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  12. Amethyst87F

    Amethyst87F JesF35

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    I think it's fine as long as it's done safely without lighting anything else on fire.
     
  13. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    My thoughts exactly......but only if the flag is your own and it is done safely, as above statement stated......It is not right to burn anyone else's property.....I would not burn a flag, though, and I have more pressing things to worry about than if someone wants to burn one of their flags safely to make some kind of statement or get some anger out without hurting any living thing..
     
  14. IAmMaxieHearMeRoar

    IAmMaxieHearMeRoar Maxie Lee Courtland-Colton

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    Oh, I personally wouldn't either, especially not someone else's, I'm just saying cloth is cloth
     
  15. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Well there's silk and cotton and wool and tartan and flannel and synthetics =p
     
  16. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    A lot of those "Murican flags are made in China... Why should it matter at all?
     
  17. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    The American flag I bought in Atlanta is the strangest material of all my flags. Almost plastic but not. If I was to put in the wind it wouldn't flap, you'd hear it rustle and would need a tornado to get it to fly good whilst all my other flags will blow if you sneeze near them.
     
  18. tumbling.dice

    tumbling.dice Visitor

    Burn the hell out of it!!! Especially if it's a Nazi flag!
     
  19. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Silly silly, if it's original, you're just burning away decent money!
     
  20. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    I usually try to stand upwind of the flag as it burns so I don't set myself on fire.
    I feel that is the best position for flag burning.
     

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