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Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Aerianne, May 9, 2016.

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  1. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    "some people"

    I have a username
     
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  2. Aerianne

    Aerianne Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    OMG! I'm glad you were home, though!
     
  3. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Who even watches TLC

    There's nothing good there, ever
     
  4. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Lol

    I understand :) But most arguments were made (and backed up) by me, who you conveniently ignore. You did not provide a backed up counter argument either but instead chose to focus on another person with trivial arguments (that did not refute any points made about genealogy in the discussion). Just ending it with a correct summary :)
     
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    That poems and mythology are not reliable needs special proof?
     
  7. Piaf

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    People here are getting less and less reasonable.

    It's common sense.
     
  8. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I'd already solidified my argument with Scandinavian texts. So I was right. :p and I didn't ignore you, I chose to focus on the negativity which you weren't displaying. ;)
     
  9. Piaf

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    You mentioned Bible.
    Who the hell would base their genealogy on the Bible.
     
  10. Irminsul

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    I mentioned the bible as a reliable source of historic knowledge. You look but you don't see.
     
  11. mallyboppa

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    your all fucked up ! We are brothers and sisters in this world ??
    We are Stardust we are Golden ( even Pakis ) :tonguewink:
     
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    there is no power unless I take the lock off the box .. she does it for attention. that stove isnt even 2yrs old and its ruined. i dont even care about it. its almost impossible to set fire with electric, but she manages. 20things to eat in the fridge , just not good enough for the child. its clearly an attention thing
     
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  13. Asmodean

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    I wish you focussed on my argument instead. If you can't be bothered that's ok, but since you went verifying things... :p i think its fair to assume you found something that didn't suit you:

    If you weren't (for some reason :p) done with the discussion I would ask you what you actually mean there! :)
    The inevitable conclusion at this point seems that you're the one who has nothing.

    Hey, i agreed with a lot of what you wrote. Like, most people have some link to nobility in them, we just don't know it. But yeah, you didn't try to counter any of my arguments :(
     
  14. Asmodean

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    Not on here.
     
  15. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    But it's not.
    "Historic knowledge" in the Bible isn't actually proven 100%?
    People who want to believe the "biblical facts" can find sources, just like those who don't believe it can.
    People pick and choose. It's not an objective truth.

    It's not reliable.
    Sure, there is a family tree in the Bible.
    But it's not a 100% proven fact.
     
  16. Asmodean

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    Some stuff in the Bible is verified to be historical correct (a lot), other stuff not (also plenty).
    I think one of the cool things about the NT is that it contains 4 different accounts of things during and after Jesus' life.
    Same about the norse sagas: some stuff in it is verified to be historical accurate, other stuff isn't. The thing is: how more other sources there are from a certain era, the easier it generally gets to verify things. This is why we know a lot more facts about kings in the middle east from 3000 years ago, than about Scandinavian kings in the early middle ages.
     
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    I don't care about family trees in the bible, I was saying that the bible itself is the best known historical record of history 2-3000 years ago, as in politics and kings and so on. Places, cities, the architectural foundations of places. They're all documented in bible passages and it's the best known documentation on that history. So I was saying, if the bible can be regarded as historic evidence then why can't other religious texts from other cultures? That's what I'm saying, and I'm saying that in regards to Scandinavian texts where lineage is only known through poetry and the Eddas. It doesn't matter that they're mythological tales because they were still real people and they're only recorded history in some parts are only documented in poems. That's my argument. Just because they're mentioned in poems doesn't make them less relevant or that they didn't exist because they did.

    So I was standing up for Aeri in the sense that I read from you guys that no you can't take a poem seriously, when in fact you can and earths historical records were galvanised from poetry, sagas, verses and fantasy literature.
     
  18. tumbling.dice

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    We are all related in multiple ways...for example, after doing much research my brother discovered that our mother was related to my dad's side of the family from many generations back. So my mom is my mom but also my nth degree cousin. It's that way with all of us. So we all have royalty in the family, plus a lot of losers.
     
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    Ehhhhh they're not losers.

    In fact, if anyone's a loser, it's the people who rely on royalty, like it's the achievement of their lifetime.
     
  20. Asmodean

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    I take those poems very seriously and even dare to state I probably like them more than you :eek:
    Most can not be used as a reliable source for genealogy because even the few historic sources that there are about the early norse and swedish kings have differences. So there you have it, we can not be sure right from the start (the kings closest to our time) of these lineages in those sagas.
     
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