California Fires

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  1. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    I guess you maybe don't consider the impact of living organisms in the metabolism of oxygen in the atmosphere.
    not discounting the impact of nuclear plants using sea water for cooling, but there are soon many other factors that come into play, just considering one and pointing to it as a primary cause is naive.
    Nuclear energy is at present the least detrimental in environmental terms (barring any accidents), many other factors probably play a much bigger role, such as deforestation and I have always pointed out that humans began to alter the atmospheric makeup whenever we began to domesticate cattle and other critters.

    The clearest correlation is with the massive production of waste gasses that came about with the industrial revolution, long before the development of nuclear energy.

    one of the things that has a HUGE impact on this shit is micro-algae in the oceans, a HELLUVA lot more than fires when it comes to oxygen utilization and conversion, wouldn't you agree?

    micro-cellular plant life dies off, we all die off.
     
  2. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    Wind has calmed down here for the most part in the OC but every once in a while ill hear a gust of it.
     
  3. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    Yeah, sure, come on out here to the Inland Empire where the fucking wind blows ALL NIGHT LONG!!!!!!
    (howling through the trees and down the chimney next to me as I type)
     
  4. Noserider

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    Still in a red flag warning till sometime tomorrow though. Wind is supposed to pick up again in the hills
     
  5. wilsjane

    wilsjane Nutty Professor HipForums Supporter

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    What you say is true, but balance has existed for millions of years. I suppose that an argument could exist that warming our oceans with nuclear heat will kill off a percentage of micro cellular plant life and oxygen balance will restore.
    Most people do not realize that a nuclear power station producing 100 megawatts at the alternators is dumping 300 megawatts of heat into the surrounding seas from its reactor cooling systems. Worldwide this amounts to about one billion megawatts every hour. Electric cars alone will require 8 additional power stations in the UK. It is all rather frightening when we ignore the effects on our oceans. Already we have tropical marine life living off the UK coast. Just imagine the pollution effects when we decommission a reactor and all this starts to die. As you pointed out, our oceans are vital to our existence, do we want to take the chance of making such huge changes to their balance.
     
  6. SamCuddly

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    The biggest reason for the fires in southern California in the past couple of days has been the winds. The fires would have been put out before they got big if it was not for the winds.

    There is a lot that can be done. Suzanne Somers's Malibu home was burned down probably because somebody flicked a cigarette out the car window. The vast majority of homes that burned in California are made of wood. The type of roof makes a big difference. Brush clearance makes a big difference.

    People say that it is too expensive to build a home using metal but none of the huge skyscrapers are made of wood.
     
  7. Noserider

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    and...no there's a fire outside of San Diego
     
  8. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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  10. SamCuddly

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    Yes, right now in the news they are showing 4 fires in Los Angeles and Ventura counties and two in San Diego county. In the Los Angeles area are the Skirball fire (near the Getty Museum), the Creek Fire (I think where the horses burned) and the Rye Fire (Santa Clarita where Magic Mountain is). In Ventura county is the Thomas Fire, probably the worst. In San Diego county is the Lilac Fire and the Liberty Fire. None of them in southern California is close to the tragedy that happened about a month ago in northern California.

    I had not heard about that. In the Sunland-Tujunga area near Sylmar is the Gibson Ranch. I don't know how many horses were lost there but it might have been more than in the San Luis Rey Downs training center. That happened yesterday I think. They should not be allowed to keep horses anywhere they can't get them out of in an emergency.
     
  11. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    not sure which/where, but a coworker who's wife is very involved in horse everything said that at one place many stalls were padlocked because folks haven't paid their rent/fees.
    His thought was those folks who put locks on the stalls should be hung.....

    that is fucked up considering the needless loss of equestrian life
     
  12. Noserider

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    Yes I know.

    I can see the glow of the Skirball fire and I've been inhaling it for close to 48 hours now.
     
  13. Noserider

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    Did you see the dude on the news this morning saving the wild rabbit off the 101? I cried when I saw that.

    But to imagine 30 freakin' horses...in tragedies, it's always domestic animals that suffer. I understand in this particular situation the padlocks, but still...if you're not going to save your animals, at least let them loose so they can fend for themselves.
     
  14. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    lol, everyone thinks its all sunny and beach all the time. And we're all rich. Little do they know LA is a fucken shit hole filled with homless people everywhere, tons of crims here, over crowdedness, earthquakes, fires etc..
     
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  15. Noserider

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    I wasn't that naive.

    I just didn't realize the wildfires were, like, right outside your backdoor. I thought they were in the middle of nowhere. Also, the Santa Ana winds were a nice surprise no one mentioned. October being the hottest month of the year also caught me off guard. And don't even get me started on the $432,632,874,920,467,238,907.03 tax on a gallon of gas out here.

    Taxachusetts is lookin' mighty affordable these days. Still, it was like 77 today. I'm done shoveling snow, son...
     
  16. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    Cali has the highest friggin' gas prices around....
    but where else can you enjoy the waves all year long..?
     
  17. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    Hawaii ;)
     
  18. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    if you think prices are high in California......
     
  19. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    holy crap yea hawaii is ridiculously expensive. Its cool to vacation there for a week but fuck living there.
     
  20. Noserider

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    I want to get to Waikiki someday. Supposed to be some good longboard waves out there.

    But probably too remote for my tastes to live out there.
     

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