The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    And by the bye--if all states used our method of voting here in Oregon-that is, all ballots are mailed to us --we fill them out and mail them back---how could any system like this be hacked? Be that as it may, I think and hope you are correct about the groups that are against him. What I REALLY hope is that the ass gets thrown out. Of course then, ass #2 would have to be dealt with.
     
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  2. Moonglow181

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    and then ass 3.
     
  3. scratcho

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    and ass 4 and ass 5 and---yeah--on and on like that.
     
  4. scratcho

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    EPA has lost 7oo employees, many of them scientists. Score: Trump 700. Citizens": 0
    We don't need no stinkin' scientists!.
     
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  5. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    The problem is they have to vote...that's how this idiot got elected in the first place...complacency.
     
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  6. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    I know, I know, I know and worry about the same problem. I hope we don't have a voter apathy problem. I hope we turn out as in Alabama. What we did for Ossof was not good enough.
     
  7. egger

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    Trump and the Congress completed only one legislative passage in a situation where the House, Senate, and White House are controlled by Republicans. It used the budget reconciliation process which requires only 51 votes for passage. This is the best momentum that could be mustered over the course of a year within the Republican party itself in a monopoly situation in Trump's honeymoon period.

    None of the Democrats voted for it. All of the negotiating that eeked out a passage was done on Republican Senators such as Murkowski, Collins, and Corker. It required giving personal presents to Senators such as drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for Murkowski and promises of trying to deal with the bill's damaging effects on healthcare in a separate bill that supposedly will be written later for Collins.

    This tax bill was different than the tax reform that occurred during the Reagan years which was actually a bipartisan effort that needed 60 Senate votes for passage. The mindset changed significantly after the 1980's with Congress relying increasingly on the reconciliation process for legislation such as tax reform that would be better served in the long run by using a bipartisan approach.

    Ben Carson had the audacity at Trump's public ego ceremony to pray to God for giving us Trump and to ask God for bipartisanship and fiscal responsibility after passage of a highly partisan bill that raises the debt by over a trillion dollars.
     
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    Trump's ghosts of Christmas past.

     
  10. magickman

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  11. magickman

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    Funny how the trillion dollar deficit is so bad now, but the flagship-hero here, Mr. Obama, created nearly fifteen of those twenty trillion dollars of debt. Bush left us with five, and Barry said he would wipe that out if he becomes President (There's a youtube clip available of him saying this in '07 or '08).

    If indeed this terrible, terrible man is that bad then we may as well put our heads between our collective asses and kiss them goodbye, because we are truly fucked.
     
  12. Okiefreak

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    As I recall, that happened after the 2008 Bush market crash in 2008, and was designed to deal with the Republican recession caused by the greedy robber barons--unlike the present deficit increase in an economy that is in good shape with corporations making profits hand over fist, and at risk of inflationary over-stimulation. Barry who? Yes, I think this terrible, terrible man is that bad, but my response would be to take political action to make sure that he no longer has a Republican Congress to protect him, and then to make sure he isn't re-elected.
     
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  13. magickman

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    "unlike the present deficit increase in an economy that is in good shape with corporations making profits hand over fist"

    You said it, I didn't have to. No President in the last many dozens of years has spurred that kind of economic growth. No wonder the Dems are pissed...kinda hard to find a legitimate excuse to complain about that isn't it.
     
  14. Moonglow181

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    Brilliant, Tump! You were able to get into the system and rape it all for your little ole self........We all know, of course, that you are above the law!


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    [​IMG]© Provided by The HillSen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) hit President Trump over the GOP tax plan on Friday after Trump signed the bill into law, calling it a "very big Christmas gift from Trump to himself."
    "Here's President Trump's check writing, whoops, I meant bill signing ceremony today," Van Hollen tweeted.

    "How would you like to sign a check over to yourself and your family worth $11M per year? Yes, a very big Christmas gift from Trump to himself."

    Here's President Trump's check writing, whoops, I meant bill signing ceremony today. How would you like to sign a check over to yourself and your family worth $11M per year? Yes, a very big Christmas gift from Trump to himself. CBS News on Twitter

    - Chris Van Hollen (@ChrisVanHollen) December 22, 2017
    The New York Times reported Friday that the new tax code would save Trump $11 million, based on information from his 2005 tax return that was released publicly by DCReport.org in March. Trump has himself not released any of his tax returns.

    Other Democrats honed in on The New York Times report, tweeting their opposition after Trump signed the bill.

    The only number that ever mattered to @realDonaldTrump? $11M. That's how much he'll personally profit from the #GOPTaxScam. Imagine how much more we'd know if he released his tax returns. #trumptaxesTrump Could Save More Than $11 Million Under the New Tax Plan

    - Ed Markey (@SenMarkey) December 22, 2017
    Trump just signed #GOPTaxScam. You pay more, so the ultra-rich and powerful corporations pay less:

    - Taxes go up for 86 mil middle-class families by 2027

    - Health care premiums rise

    - 13 mil lose health care

    ... but don't worry, the rich and powerful get trillions in tax breaks!"
     
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  15. egger

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    After passing the tax bill, Congress passed a resolution that included a waiver on Paygo, which means that automatic spending cuts to offset the increased debt added by the recently passed tax bill won't necessarily have to be dealt with during 2018, the year of midterm Congressional elections.

    Trump didn't sign the tax bill on Wednesday but instead waited until Friday to sign it to make sure automatic spending cuts wouldn't go into effect during a midterm election year that is expected to be critical to the rest of his term.

    The more challenging battles concerning spending of money that's available are going to be in 2018.


    House to Pass Pay-Go Waiver, Rand Paul Objecting in Senate
    Dec 21, 2017 at 1:23 pm ET

    House to Pass Pay-Go Waiver, Rand Paul Objecting in Senate

    "The House is expected to pass a short-term spending bill Thursday afternoon that includes a provision needed to avoid $25 billion in Medicare cuts triggered by the GOP tax bill under pay-as-you-go budget rules.

    That law requires tax cuts and certain spending increases to be paired with offsetting provisions. If not, the law forces automatic spending cuts, although Congress has routinely passed the waiver in years past."
     
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  16. egger

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    Narcissist in Chief? How Trump's Ego Reflects US Culture
    By Stephanie Pappas, Live Science Contributor
    January 8, 2016 08:57am

    Narcissist in Chief? How Trump's Ego Reflects US Culture

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    ""Maybe the reason why people are drawn to Donald Trump, at least in the short term, is he says what, ostensibly, is on people's minds, or at least what he claims is on people's minds," Watts said.

    But Watts' research found that in the long term, disagreeableness becomes a problem. Narcissistic presidents are more likely to have impeachment resolutions brought against them, are more likely to favor political gains over good policy and are more likely to engage in unethical behavior, Watts and her colleagues found.

    In general, narcissism appears to help people rise to the top, but narcissism isn't linked with long-term leadership success, found a 2015 review of research published in the journal Personnel Psychology. In one of the reviewed studies, researchers assigned strangers to groups that met over a 12-week period. Narcissistic tendencies predicted who would take on leadership roles in the groups at first, but not later, the researchers reported in the journal Personality and Individual Differences in January 2015.

    "Despite enjoying a honeymoon period of leadership, the appeal and attractiveness of the narcissistic leader rapidly wane," the researchers wrote.

    Thus, while an ego like Trump's may charm, narcissists' long-term leadership capabilities are more questionable.

    "As politics becomes more of a public performance, it draws people higher in narcissism," Twenge said. "So we will end up with more politicians who are charismatic and confident and who we like in the short term, but more who disappoint us in the long run.""
     
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  17. magickman

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    At least he didn't say "You can keep your current insurance" and then rip it away from us, and do his own damn thing. What a thief...
     
  18. egger

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    Trump is fortunate that he inherited a recovery from Obama that helped him yield a gain (25%) in the running average of the Dow Jones Industrial Average during his first year in office that is almost as good as the one in Obama's first year (30%). Unlike Trump, Obama inherited a recession from Bush Jr.


    Did Trump inherit a mess? 8 charts show otherwise
    By Louis Jacobson
    March 1st, 2017 at 2:59 p.m.

    Did Trump inherit a mess? 8 charts show otherwise
     
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  19. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Hmmm, here are a few Trump quotes:
    So what has he done?
    After promising you can keep your current insurance he's ripping it away from us, and doing his own damn thing.
    So, wrong, Trump did say "You can keep your current insurance" and then rip it away from us, and do his own damn thing. What a thief...
     
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  20. Okiefreak

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    Trump is simply doing what he does best;:Taking credit for what Obama and Janet Yellen did for us.
     
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